nielliesmons
Niel Liesmons

In it for the beauty.
#nostrdesign #nostrepreneur #christ #dadstr #farmstr

Public Key

npub149p5act9a5qm9p47elp8w8h3wpwn2d7s2xecw2ygnrxqp4wgsklq9g722q

NIP-57 Address

nielliesmons@getalby.com

Profile Code

nprofile1qqs2js6wu9j76qdjs6lvlsnhrmchqhf4xlg9rvu89zyf3nqq6hygt0spz9mhxue69uhkummnw3ezuamfdejj7qg4waehxw309aex2mrp0yhxgctdw4eju6t09u9klgd5

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nostr.wine

relay.damus.io

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npub149p5act9a5qm9p47elp8w8h3wpwn2d7s2xecw2ygnrxqp4wgsklq9g722q

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2024-11-14 12:01:50

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They're probably playing "Pretend Tribulation" with everything they do, including Israel.
Jesus doesn't brake promises neither. When he said that he'd be back within this generation, he didn't mean thousands of years later:
https://cdn.satellite.earth/05865bc0a851eab0b92804ad0a2c36449384b706e2906fe2b6e8d6fa1d0a3906.jpg
Revelation makes a lot more sense to me if we're in the little season. Deception ATH.

2024-11-14 10:20:09

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Reg NIP-89:
How will you rank the proposed handler apps?
I think there's something very cool and high signal about letting the community/group recommend the apps that suit its needs best. Been trying to figure that stuff out for awhile in the context of @npub10r8…t2p8 too.

2024-11-14 10:08:28

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https://media.tenor.com/52ihat6oXyAAAAAC/yes-agree.gif

2024-11-10 19:24:29

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Technically: with h-tags.
To the user: by building your UI on this premise form the get-go

2024-11-09 13:10:25

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Haha, good morning to you Beave :chad_yes:

2024-11-09 08:28:18

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That's not a problem if it's clear to what relay(s) the kind 1 was targeted.
In fact that makes it a discovery mechanism.

2024-11-08 12:29:50

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Curate harder
:Nostr:

2024-11-08 12:04:44

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Goes nowhere

2024-11-08 12:04:36

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❌ "Failed to send message"

2024-11-08 12:00:55

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Need kind 1 🙏

2024-11-08 10:20:04

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What group?

2024-11-08 08:34:52

@npub107j…ncxg casually building one of the most promising Nostr projects in his free time.
Chachi = :110percent: Cool
#nevent1q…efvn

2024-11-07 15:40:50

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Don't use primal.
#nevent1q…gdw4
#nevent1q…txju

2024-11-07 11:45:56

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https://cdn.satellite.earth/e9987558db717a19b1bdc086bb8d652fdf4bf89161b9ee0fd8616f2562ed5fc1.jpg
Peasants with horses and buggy's built these.
Without a blueprint.
With perfect resonance.
Sure.

2024-11-07 10:29:38

The cathedrals all around us are a bigger mystery than any pyramid is. #littleseason

2024-11-05 14:26:08

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I've never really grasped hypercores, slashtags, pkarr, etc... beyond the fact that they all use DHT's.
For now, I don't have any use case or need for any of it neither. And it indeed seems likely that won't change anytime soon.
My point was mainly about the #NostrOnly dogmatic statements (plus ensuing applause) that get influencors into the Trending lists. That's the cult-like nonsense a public square incentivizes.
"I don't care about I2p, I'm #NostrOnly"
Lmao 😂. All that you-name-it-maximalism gets so transparently ridiculous when you switch the examples for something that isn't hated by 90% of your ingroup.
That goes for Bitcoin too.
#FalseIdols

2024-11-05 09:07:55

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GM from my #Flutter architecture learning curve :Zapchat:
https://media.tenor.com/Oe6pHQKEBtYAAAAC/steep-hill.gif

2024-11-05 08:59:33

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They heard "Permission-less" and think straight up lying is ok now.

2024-11-04 09:53:51

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Any projects you know that do that really well?

2024-11-04 09:30:24

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https://media.tenor.com/yCLfoMEP_uwAAAAC/the-cats-confirm-oh-yes.gif

2024-11-04 09:01:30

#Flutter Crew: I'm looking for professional examples of open source apps in #Dart that:
- only use the widgets.dart package and build out custom widgets from there (no Material or Cupertino, por favor)
- put their whole design system in a separate package
@npub1wf4…dgh9 @npub10td…x2wl @npub1w9l…3tur

2024-11-03 17:00:38

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That door 🥰

2024-11-01 16:17:48

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Lol, yes, I naively tried to learn more coding by looking at nostr "examples".

2024-11-01 13:36:17

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That's an administrative contact npub.
I need it to **be the relay**.

2024-11-01 12:09:26

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Exactly, been there.
Bluewallet is how I managed to recover my nearly lost sats.

2024-11-01 12:08:06

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My main need is relay IDs that are not URL's

2024-11-01 12:05:26

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Yup, the probability of messing something up with a "super secure" coldcard is so frigging high for me. So many nerdy options and details I don't need.
Also: The Sparrow software they highly recommend to use with it doesn't work on older Macs and I almost lost a significant amount of sats because of all that.

2024-11-01 11:48:57

What's the case against giving relays npubs and where can I read about it? #askdevs

2024-11-01 10:41:40

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Don't think so.
If relays (finally) get npubs then: Yes.
It's just not to be confused with relay-based groups 😜.

2024-10-30 13:35:01

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Yup. And just losing something is enough to repel most.

2024-10-30 13:17:28

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Free, commodity relays are already highly centralizing as is.
If people could only pick one relay for the publication of each event (i.e. the limitation nuts have) nearly everyone would pick damus.

2024-10-30 13:14:31

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Expanding on the differences between Ralays and Mints a bit here (mostly for myself 🙈 ):
1. You can have the same event in multiple relays 🆚 Each nut belongs to one mint
2. You can backup and republish all of your events 🆚 You can backup your nuts but you remain ruggable despite of it
3. No cost for two users sending messages to each other's, different relay 🆚 A cost for two users sending nuts to each other's, different mint

2024-10-30 13:03:05

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I'm more and more attracted to that last option. #nostache 🥸
I like the simplicity of something like mustache and it seems relatively easy to built various types of Nostr functionality on top of it. Both in terms of:
1. Fetching Nostr events/media to fill the mustaches with
2. Defining types of "links" that, when clicked, signal specific events to be opened/signed by the native app

2024-10-30 10:41:38

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Aha, thanks!
Please curate Videos on your relay, though 😜.

2024-10-30 10:37:11

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Has there been any update/discussions on switching Articles to asciidoc?

2024-10-30 10:34:12

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Powerful stuff, Good Moderation relays.

2024-10-30 10:01:31

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> your trending mints are going to be different, and possibly very different from mines, because it's personalised!
Why? I don't see much proof of this.
1. Mints are very different from content, relays, niche services, ... Unlike with those, there's very little design space for them to be anything else than a commodity.
2. Without the mint auth'ing you (and thus turning it into a bi-directional relationship), what's stopping most users from just going with the fastest, cheapest, hardest one? What exactly breaks that centralizing feedback loop?
Hard-coding apps to stay away from mints that have over XXX reserves?
Then you probably end up with the same centralization, just more hidden across "different" mints.
3. Me and you using the same mint is the cheapest, most friction-less option. Scale that to all the other profiles in our networks and the incentives are there for us all to use the same mint.
This is why I'm interested in solutions that by default limit a mint's scope to groups of people explicitly trusting each other in some way.
I don't see many other decentralizing forces besides that.

2024-10-30 09:05:28

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You don't need reviews if people literally publicly state what mints they use. Can't get any more "Action > Words" than that 😂 .
But then you still have to determine **who** to look at for the reputable mints. Letting an algo automagically compute that for you (even based on your network) gets us in the same positive feedback loop we see with large npubs now. And please, oh please, let's not kid ourselves that Trending Mints are somehow a good idea.
In the end, you a need a quick way to combo-filter for Npubs that:
1️⃣ You know (i.e. part of your network)
2️⃣ Take responsibility
Communities help with both.
- They help determine what your network is.
- Admins are the obvious first npubs to look for when it comes to who's capable and willing to lead/run things like groups, relays, servers, mints, ...

2024-10-30 08:34:10

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Ooh 👀
Yes, auth seems to be the most straight forward solution indeed.
But as the mint custodian I'd like to be as blind as possible to who is spending what, when.

2024-10-30 08:18:33

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2024-10-30 06:50:07

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You add a bunch of actions and trust assumptions the user has to perform fir each mint.
If you ignore those or delegate them to other people (or mint packs or sth) you might as well just use one mint.

2024-10-29 21:03:05

If I get it right, the incentives around #cashu make small Uncle Jim mints the most likely because:
- Big mints are rug factories and are easier to jail
- Spreading your money over dozens of mints is terrible UX, despite whatever cool multi-nut cypherpunk stuff you come up with to make it work technically
And honestly, I'm fine with that. I'm just not clear yet on how that would work, since I would very much like to run my "College Friends" mint **for** my college friends, not for whoever.
#nevent1q…ytv9

2024-10-29 20:20:52

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I've got this on any content type:
https://cdn.satellite.earth/85ff256c31831c09e6929062d53ea7d8c845087cd51797a1ee5d56e7dfc873fe.png

2024-10-29 19:26:42

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Yup, it keeps getting compared to the news/journalism niche that Twitter started out with, leaving out the fact that news/journalism is in no way as repelling/weird/geeky as the BTC cult.

2024-10-29 15:53:06

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@npub176p…vgup I need that "Proof Of Group Member" we talked about, again 😏

2024-10-29 15:27:10

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So let's say:
- I set up a group chat for my normie friends (Uncle Jimming a relay+blossom server for them).
- I run a lightning node (Alby Hub style)
- I run a #cashu mint on top of it
How do I now:
1. only let that private group use the mint?
2. maximize privacy?
Is there some kind of "Proof Of Group Member" that they can share?
Is there a way for me to run the mint in "Blind Mode" or something (and prove it to them!)?

2024-10-29 15:16:17

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But how do you keep it to the community / private group that you run the mint for?
That's what I don't grasp yet. I want to run it as a Community Bank.
But if I ask for authentication, I'm a privacy honey pot etc...
How does this compare to running Alby Hub?

2024-10-29 09:25:08

At least #pubky is very transparent about who it's for 🙈
https://cdn.satellite.earth/889da7031e6c11784dde890167ee98eb035122b76ec4c89e6e6110916bc01bfd.png

2024-10-28 15:32:00

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You're talking about npubs?
https://cdn.satellite.earth/fa3185867c5da5d9f0fde68e17cb0900c3c4a1b736e245b51e265d0185fa20f9.png

2024-10-28 13:32:50

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What's that picture from?

2024-10-28 11:37:32

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Yup, Nostr works like that by default.
Note that Nostter.app is just kind 1's.
On noStrudel you can set your app relays to 1 app relay and dive into Articles, Wikis, Emoji packs, etc... from the ~~relay~~ community
But of course, ideally you built for all of this from the start:
#nevent1q…47ve

2024-10-28 09:38:09

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https://media.tenor.com/2nXRhH92h3QAAAAC/guy-fawkes-v-for-vendetta.gif

2024-10-28 09:36:24

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#naddr1qv…eany

2024-10-28 09:35:52

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I now format all my wikis on the #asciidoc website's tools.
If Nostr abandonware doesn't render it correctly 👉 Not on me.

2024-10-28 09:32:08

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You'll have 🅱️.
It'll just not be called Habla.

2024-10-28 09:18:55

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Yeeeeeees!
That makes the "Relay = Community" concept so obvious 😍

2024-10-28 09:15:13

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Hehe, yes sir. That's what I drew first, in fact.
Good solution for apps that might not have all the recurring swipe actions built-in, like I have.

2024-10-28 09:12:14

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Which is exactly what keeps most users/builders in this Twitter-clone feedback loop.
The answer to "But most people only use Twitter-clones, so how will they ______?" isn't more Twitter-cloning 🤦‍♂️ .
Endless discussions about how to match Nostr's inherent multi-content type nature with a kind-1 feed
🆚
Building apps :110percent: based on the premise that Nostr has a multi-content type nature
(that said, it's time to take my advice and stop discussing and start building, lol 🙈 )

2024-10-28 09:02:17

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Chat maximalism is the future of other stuff and Nostr decentralization. #zapchat :Zapchat:
https://cdn.satellite.earth/a77eb265f994b396c769501224253f04d3d1d9bebaeb67799cd1aa4422e7ea67.mov

2024-10-28 08:44:52

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All of that sounds more like an argument for apps that are excellent at:
1️⃣ Replies on [ANY CONTENT TYPE]
(without them having to actually display the content properly, let alone let users interact with it)
2️⃣ Aggregrating [ANY CONTENT TYPE] around the niche communities that are interested in them. Making discovery something that organically happens, instead of something you have to start iNfLuEnCoRing around for in the kind 1's you're blasting out to god-knows-where.

2024-10-27 10:00:44

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Humans don't organize by content type. I don't need follow lists for each kind. That's terrible UX and is playing Big Tech copy cat for no reason. I don't want to manage dozens of follow lists, trust score lists, recommended handler lists, etc...
I just need Communities and they solve most of that stuff as a byproduct.
I open up Zapstore and can look through the eyes of the communities I want app recommendations from. Or interact with each community with their recommended apps.
I open up Zapster when I arrive on a get together of my College Friends (private group) and can just launch a playlist of the music the people in that group have publicly valued. Or I just open that app when I'm alone in the car and get recommendations based on what's in my library, what I've zapped, ... Or I browse by Community.
Note that I'm not following any App or Music Artist for any of this to work.

2024-10-25 08:15:52

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Blueprint = spec + design

2024-10-24 11:13:32

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Thanks sir!
"Revert" and "original name" are the two things that I also realized after posting 🤦. Needed indeed.
Also, I thinking of renaming the follow button to a "+ Add" button, or something else that overlaps more with actual actions of labelling npubs.
When I'm back at my Mac I'll show you why your other points are not really an issue.

2024-10-24 08:38:09

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https://cdn.satellite.earth/0e123ce6e78fa021abc743ea184c271177c07c18507f135c0ce40548e25f3d8a.mov
Nicknames 🖊️
#zapchat

2024-10-23 19:32:42

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The fact that I use noStrudel **on my phone** tells you all you need to know 😅

2024-10-23 14:37:40

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Exactly :110percent:
Significant Win-Win between community admins & custom algos.

2024-10-23 13:47:56

Zapper Chatter :Zapchat:
https://nostrnests.com/naddr1qqjxxdmxx56nvdtz943nsvmz956ryvpe95ur2wf595cnjvekvsmrqde3893nwqghwaehxw309aex2mrp0yh8qunfd4skctnwv46z7q3q49p5act9a5qm9p47elp8w8h3wpwn2d7s2xecw2ygnrxqp4wgsklqxpqqqpmxwvrt8jc
Mañana, 19h30 UTC

2024-10-23 13:45:54

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Target audience for this: @npub107j…ncxg @npub1jlr…ynqn @npub1s3h…75wz @npub1wf4…dgh9 @npub176p…vgup @npub1zaf…26k5 @npub10td…x2wl
@npub10np…tl5h

2024-10-23 13:36:40

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#naddr1qv…eany

2024-10-23 13:25:01

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Note: I'm updating the Design file, the Article and the Project Wiki as we go along
I'm publishing it now with the goal to form a team of nostrepreneurs around this design and vision.

2024-10-23 13:20:41

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https://cdn.satellite.earth/2d2dda8e83f0f9797e197207429b867df2ef462a193d1348b3eb49228bda61e2.png
Need design inspiration for the zapping and chatting parts of your Nostr App?
👉 I open-sourced my #zapchat design system
Want to join a team and build a native app with exceptional zapping, chatting, interoperable communities, widgets, stories, etc... ?
👉 I open-sourced my #zapchat design system
More here:
#naddr1qv…ux2l

2024-10-23 09:00:58

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Can I run it on my own relay/server ?

2024-10-23 08:10:44

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Algos can only surface high signal.
You can't publish **in** them. You can only try to implicitly hack your way into them.
This is what interoperable communities fix.

2024-10-22 19:01:24

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Recruiting to niche Community Relays ftw!
I have a loooong list of people that I'd never ever invite to join ThE fEeD but that'd be completely ready to start publishing in a niche community receptive to their stuff.

2024-10-22 13:00:36

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Add "code"

2024-10-22 12:17:05

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Depends if you're going with that pink :GitCitadel: logo or not 😜

2024-10-22 10:49:10

Me and my #asciidoc that I want to format correctly on Nostr:
https://media.tenor.com/4_1TjV_ppFcAAAAC/hacksaw-ridge-carry.gif

2024-10-22 09:26:44

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You don't need "rooms" if you have the wiki entries in there with their reply sections and if publications can be targeted at "NIP's Out" and "Golang Popes" simultaneously.

2024-10-22 09:24:12

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:110percent:
1. Label that community as "Work"
2. Turn that stuff off during the weekend
#nevent1q…fx7c

2024-10-22 08:45:49

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Yes

2024-10-22 08:45:36

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Perfect!
I'll be starting this one soon, for getting the NIP talk over here (even more dev-talk lol):
https://cdn.satellite.earth/e81942903addd15dab85b3d302c2000ccb401accf6b30c83bb424259af72e144.png

2024-10-22 08:41:33

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https://media.tenor.com/hLzBi84eC7cAAAAC/cute-sadeyes.gif

2024-10-21 13:34:03

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Yup :110percent:

2024-10-21 13:20:42

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What are people zapping here?
Is it for sth like a live-stream that they're zapping?
Or is it for zapping messages in the chat?

2024-10-21 09:06:44

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Maybe @npub10r8…t2p8 invites is the 🐐 solution tho.
You get invited to a community and have the apps to best interact with said community right there for you to install. As recommended by the community itself.

2024-10-21 09:01:03

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Depends what your goal is.
You can just share the Npub like you do for users.
But most will instead want to invite others to experience a community **in a specific app**. For that there's several options:
For Web Apps you can share a URL of the group/community:
- this link can be personalized to the receiving user
- this link can end with the npub so other apps can pick up on it
For Native Apps I'm currently breaking my head on how I want to do this. I have this strong hunch that there's something really awesome that you can do when the community **is** a relay/media server. As in:
- it has a domain
- it can store events, file hashes and even the files (apk's etc...) itselves
- it can whitelist npubs (throw-away npubs included) for access to those events and files
- with cashu you can even set a little starter's budget aside for the invitee

2024-10-21 08:51:18

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Yeah, NostrView is SEO king

2024-10-21 08:50:26

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Check DuckDuckGo 👉 Page one

2024-10-21 08:22:51

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Primal is SEO'ing the living Jesus out of your posts
https://media.tenor.com/DYDUrAhHqEkAAAAC/worry-men-in-black.gif

2024-10-21 08:18:15

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My kids were like "Wake up Dad, I'm sick and have night terrors at the same!".
4 nights in a row 😳
Hence the delay on all this hehe.

2024-10-21 08:15:45

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Group = Relay = Npub
Avoids so much of these complications.

2024-10-21 08:02:54

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Hahaha :110percent:
That'd make it a great way to stop, at least most guys, from gorging on it 😂
Time to reconsider.

2024-10-21 08:00:02

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https://cdn.satellite.earth/a8798711a61e5a337b97dd98857714f58cc0a2e77bce65597eea2e5fb01c8e30.mov
My tabs look like buttons for a reason #nostrdesign
Btw: dropping first version of the design system behind all this later today :catDance:

2024-10-20 18:33:14

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Mustache = https://mustache.github.io/mustache.5.html ?

2024-10-20 18:30:21

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Seed oil is such a bad meme lol.
Thank god it only sounds somewhat normal in English.
In Dutch or French people would just laugh in your face because you'd sound so dumb 😹 .
Saturated and Unsaturated is on every label, no need for memes that add more confusion.

2024-10-20 12:47:25

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🎯

2024-10-20 12:27:02

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And ideas on what could work well for max sandboxing a javascript engine in Flutter apps?

2024-10-20 10:50:25

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That's a good pro-http argument I didn't think about yet, thanks.
And it's probably time to NIP this indeed.

2024-10-20 10:41:34

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Chat UI fixes this

2024-10-20 10:33:17

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> Perpetual Prototype Purgatory
Haha damn, that sets the vibe alright 😳