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2025-04-15 12:29:40

Interesting insights. Curious how the game theory of Bitcoin plus flag theory will affect geopolitics https://youtu.be/rZjDgGNbzgw

2025-04-05 08:03:55

https://image.nostr.build/f502cd6b3a1b03b41f2436b666a20402dab1a6c0e3fc27663d8887fe652cd756.jpg

2025-04-03 12:48:59

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Many lessons in there. What I took from it is to be present and enjoying the process, rather than to chase goals.

2025-04-03 12:36:31

https://image.nostr.build/133f47314bb19ea5208d8a32a45db7ef3e476578bc110a3d1b6c9ebc30036375.jpg

2025-03-30 13:48:21

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This. Local communities and watching Seinfeld.

2025-03-21 15:26:13

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yes, there is more personal responsibility and voting on specific issues via direct democracy. Been listening to pods with Swiss expats from Germany recently.

2025-03-17 20:31:13

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Damn. OTF funded lots of good stuff including a security audit of OpenPGP.js in 2014 that identified several critical vulnerabilities.

2025-03-13 14:12:48

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Same. Macademia looks really slick too though!

2025-03-04 16:34:00

https://youtu.be/21CEOlBq2YI

2025-02-25 14:31:32

Really enjoyed my time here in Bitcoin Jungle. So cool to see all the vendors accept bitcoin at the farmer’s market. Pura Vida from Costa Rica 🤙 https://image.nostr.build/325dfa1db02fbb309735a118c8b7968e8823b366b1a3229fb971610a4c2eef51.jpg

2025-02-08 11:31:26

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Yeah. There are ways to run short background tasks now even on iOS. This is basically how Phoenix handles signing and releasing the preimage to receive in the background. The device just has to be online…

2025-02-08 10:36:42

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In a recent pod you mentioned interactivity limitations on mobile w/o covenants. Can you expand on that?

2025-02-04 13:47:45

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Massive! How do developers get paid? Lightning address or does a plain bolt11 also work?

2025-01-31 12:42:33

hikes > panels #note1a4z…m8ln

2025-01-30 12:41:55

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Yeah, if the receiver phone has an internet connection receiving on phoenix works relatively well while the app is in the background. I guess async solves for the cases where the phone is offline for extended periods of time. But since zaps are mostly not mission critical, but tipping for shitposts, it might work fine without async payments.

2025-01-30 08:36:56

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@npub185h…wrdp are we correct to assume that hosted channels would require async payments (and broad bolt12 adoption) to allow self-custodial zaps?

2025-01-29 19:45:44

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Well users can swap to onchain self-custody with integrated boltz. But I agree it’s not as seemless as hosted channels.

2025-01-29 19:32:23

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Lol, yeah. I see liquid as my pocket money where I can side-step onchain fee spikes like we had during the halving. I’m not religious about any particular tech though and will use whatever has the best trade-offs and UX. If we can solve zaps with self-custody tech, that would be ideal obv.

2025-01-29 19:27:03

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Yeah cashu can iterate on the application layer more quickly. But choosing the initial mint is still an unsolved UX challenge. And mints get shut down constantly. I actually considered fedimint for stashpay, but chose the least worse option with Liquid (which is more likely to be there tomorrow).

2025-01-29 19:20:35

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Yeah, async payments would require broad BOLT12 support if I understand correctly. Basically the sender LSP would hold the payment until the receiving device came online.

2025-01-29 19:03:24

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You could use ecash to do LSP fee credits. Before StashPay I thought about building a mint just for fee credits that LSPs could integrate. But I got stuck on the regulatory part. You’d have to prevent users from spending until they have enough sats to open a channel. And there is a loss of privacy, since you couldn’t keep track of amounts to stay within legal limits. Otherwise you’d just end up hosting a mint for folks and custody their funds without limits.

2025-01-29 18:42:46

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I like the idea of hosted channels. Solves low values payments. What are the regulatory implications for an LSP that custodies the sats until they end up in self-custody?

2025-01-29 17:57:29

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I’m reading through nip-60. I guess it makes sense since zaps are public anyway. So the best practice is probably for users to have two ecash wallets… one for public zaps and one for private payments?

2025-01-29 17:40:17

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Is the selected mint stored in relays?

2025-01-29 14:51:20

Updated the StashPay website. I’m pivoting away from the freelancer focus and making a minimalist wallet for everyone.
I’ve realized I care more about exploring peer-to-peer payments UX than building a B2B business.
I’m also considering turning Onion Mill into a non-profit to get more people involved via grants. But for now I’ll continue to self-fund my work. I kinda like being an independent voice.
https://stashpay.me

2025-01-27 13:17:32

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Congrats! Nice and simple api. Lightning payments will happen via boltz swaps I presume? Will SDK users be able to configure the swap server?

2025-01-26 16:37:52

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Very exciting indeed! Should make the SDK more attractive in the ecosystem.
And my pleasure re the issue. I know how annoying it can be to get issues asking for things in open source projects. Sometimes a few kind words make all the difference.

2025-01-26 15:58:20

Very excited to see this PR merged: https://github.com/breez/breez-sdk-liquid/pull/639
Thank you to Roy and the @npub1jug…fc28 team for being open to feedback and enabling use of the SDK without an API-key again.
Onwards ⚡️

2025-01-25 11:18:16

There are no failures, only iterations. Keep going.

2025-01-24 12:50:07

💯 living below your means and stacking sats is so much easier to implement for young people than trying to get on the housing ladder (or should say housing bag?) #note1ntc…jwfv

2025-01-24 07:56:39

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Congrats to both the Breez team and Egodeath. Such an important piece of infrastructure ⚡️ Thank you for making the cost of building wallets deflationary 🙏🏼

2025-01-24 07:53:24

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If only we had auditable full reserve tech connected to Lightning 🤔

2025-01-21 11:19:22

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*is

2025-01-21 11:18:52

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I wonder if that id unique to Uvita. Costa Rica seems expensive in general https://nomads.com/costa-rica

2025-01-15 12:51:38

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BDK, Breez Liquid SDK, Cashu TS

2025-01-15 10:20:16

I’ve been considering integrating Cashu or Fedimint to support <1000 sat payments in StashPay. But where I get stuck is that it would probably require displaying two balances. Not only do Liquid and Ecash have different trust/auditability properties. I’m not sure there is a good solution to managing dust amounts in both an ecash mint and a Liquid wallet. The resulting UX would likely be worse.
A solution to integrate all of these into a single mobile app might be to integration each into a bluewallet card. Then allow users to do zaps with their ecash wallet that connects to a lightning address. Medium sized lightning payments (over 10k sats) could be done from their Liquid wallet to save on fees. Then an on-chain wallet could be used for savings. Blue already has many great options like multi-sig. All these wallets could be connected internally via submarine swaps to manage balances in each. #note1jac…7tfv

2025-01-14 21:37:17

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So many people “should” all over themselves.

2025-01-14 21:23:40

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Yeah, both have their strengths. ecash is better for smaller payments like zaps.
Lightning/liquid swaps are cheap enough for medium sized payments though. I’ve had lower fees with Boltz swaps for payments over 10k sats than fedimint.

2025-01-14 18:45:11

There is nothing inherently more decentralized about ecash mints over submarine swap servers. Both are fundamentally lightning nodes that can be run over tor by a community member.
Ecash has better privacy but also requires trusting the community member(s) with custody. The swap server on the other hand delegates custody to a diverse set of options that users can chose based their desired trust trade-offs.

2025-01-14 16:30:43

Discussing FATF isn’t as popular as CBDCs since your favorite onramps already all comply. But this interview of a nym who works on the rules is definitely worth a listen. It’s chilling and inspiring at the same time. #note1nfh…auet

2025-01-09 10:46:01

It’s so important to be able to disagree respectfully i.e. distinguish between an idea (on which we can disagree) and a person holding an idea (which we can respect despite a disagreement).
Perhaps this could be a podcast format, where the moderator invites two people with opposing views and starts with the question of what each respects about the other person. After mutual respect has been established, the discussion is moved towards dissecting the opposing ideas.
Other ground rules could be to encourage nonviolent communication practices from Marshall Rosenberg’s book. In his book Rosenberg describes how he has defused decades long conflicts using these practices. I try (and often fail) at using his techniques in various relationships. Perhaps the moderator could call out mistakes and encourage each guest to reword something they’ve said to reestablish mutual respect.
At the end of the podcast the moderator could ask the two where they agree with the other person’s perspective and whether they have found a mistake in their own thinking. This gives an opportunity for growth and normalizes the practice of admitting mistakes.
This format would probably diffuse so many of the conflicts lingering in society and allow us to get closer to a truth based in first principles thinking.

2025-01-07 12:59:32

Love this discussion around building ethical for-profit services using non-custodial open source.
And great to see podcasts with bootstrapped founders 🔥 #note1jjh…yrup

2025-01-03 18:09:12

Happy Jan 3rd!
StashPay 0.1.7 is here for iOS & Android.
Download here: https://stashpay.me
Release notes:
* Add: Update NPM dependencies
* Add: Switch RNG to a maintained module
* Add: Reduce min on-chain amount to 25k sats
* Add: Handle lightning: and bitcoin: URLs
* Fix: Remove button margin in seed backup

2025-01-03 10:19:51

Bullish on the UX becoming easier to get paid in bitcoin directly to your own wallet than buying and withdrawing.
Sure, we can accept payment in fiat and buy into a lobster trap. But that’s on each of us to change. #note1uwh…384f

2025-01-01 13:59:58

Privacy must happen on the protocol level. This is why BOLT12 is important. This is why ECash is important.
Any entity or service provider that becomes too big will become a pressure point. It doesn’t matter if it’s a major LSP, a large submarine swap server, a large custodian, or a large ECash mint.
Regulatory pressure will act as a decentralization function and ultimately reduce pressure points to a local/community level. It is here on the local level where privacy has a chance.
Services, protocols and products that plan ahead to give end users control to configure their own servers have a chance at staying resilient in the coming years.

2024-12-31 13:57:27

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I lived in Madeira for a few months in 2023. Very beautiful island and amazing hiking. Beaches are better on other islands like the Canaries. But Portugal is better for bitcoiners.
Re homeschooling @npub1tdc…8r0y can probably hook you up.

2024-12-31 09:15:44

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Ob es pro Einundzwanzig meetup bald einen Boltz server gibt, um das Bier zu finanzieren?

2024-12-26 11:53:31

https://youtu.be/njYciFC7mR8

2024-12-24 16:29:24

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Advanced data protection doesn’t encrypt iCloud key-value-store only certain app data that use the new CloudKit apis: https://support.apple.com/en-al/102651
The BitKey whitepaper does point out that a government adversary can steal user funds in this case with access to iCloud/GDrive and a legal request to Block (disabling delay and notify).
FWIW I agree funds are safer likely from loss/theft for most users with Block and a trusted contact’s Apple/Google cloud storage (especially compared to the threat of getting a Coinbase account SIM swapped).
I’m just wondering how to describe the trust model with social recovery activated in plain english.

2024-12-24 08:28:33

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I’ve recommended BitKey to a few friends and family. I’ve gotten surprisingly good questions about social recovery from a nontechnical friend:
“Who am I trusting here? Can my coins be seized by the government?”
I pointed to the whitepaper which names Google Drive, iCloud key-value-store and Block’s servers. But what’s a plain english version to explain the trust model in this case?

2024-12-21 16:24:24

Good read. I’d also recommend Luke Gromen’s analysis. He points out that a commodity based reserve asset would favor countries with a trade surplus.
https://youtu.be/Woqq2mchXjw #note1f2q…fd86

2024-12-18 11:50:38

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Yeah, unfortunately the wallet is currently bound by Breez/Boltz SDK limits (1000 sats for Lightning and 50,000 sats for Onchain).
I currently don’t see a way to bridge these limits without some kind of custodial system like ecash. But that would open up a whole new can of worms for users to move sats between two balances. Doing this automatically under the hood would require trusting a preconfigured ecash mint (which one to chose?) and then moving sats between the mint and Liquid automatically while managing dust amounts in each :/
/cc @npub1jug…fc28 @npub1psm…8970

2024-12-17 10:06:38

StashPay 0.1.6 is here for iOS & Android.
Download here: https://stashpay.me
Release notes:
* Add: Redesign home, send & receive screens
* Add: Set receive amount before displaying invoice QR code
* Add: Use Breez Liquid Electrum server for instant P2P payment notifications
* Add: „BTC“ or „LN“ to receive copy button
* Fix: text input alignment on Android

2024-12-13 17:15:23

https://image.nostr.build/35ddb945d3bde71872cce282adb060381c12609792e821cd2b4d6a23f3fe403c.jpg

2024-12-11 11:00:06

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Yeah it‘s early days. I also assume that as sats are priced appropriately over the coming years that signal-to-noise goes up too.

2024-12-11 10:47:39

A strategy that Nostr users could use to prevent spam through zapvertising is to use a lightning address that only accepts zaps that above a certain threshold e.g. 100 sats.
Since StashPay only accepts lightning payments above 1000 sats (boltz swap minimum) this might actually be a selling point for StashPay lightning addresses (an upcoming feature).
Is this something nostr users would find useful? What zap limit would users prefer? 100 sats or 1000 sats? #note1lve…5423

2024-12-11 10:34:48

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I‘ve been pondering this question as well. Where I end up is that in contrast to email marketing (which is free and infinitely scalable) zapvertising requires proof of work and brilliantly showcases the spam prevention concept from HashCash. So the marketer must target potential customers that are more likely to gain value from an ad to not waste money. Feels more like a win-win scenario to me than current marketing models.

2024-12-06 10:33:25

3rd day water fasting while everyone is posting 100k dinners. AMA.

2024-12-05 21:28:24

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Congrats! Very happy to hear

2024-12-05 10:19:59

Regarding definitions…
A bitcoin layer 2 requires unilateral exit. And I agree Liquid does not meet that definition. However self-custody is a very nuanced topic in the context of mobile wallets. Mobile Lightning wallets today rely on trusted third parties in the form of watchtowers to not lose money. In many cases no watchtower is used and wallets rely on the trust and incentives of a single LSP. Relying on the trust and incentives of 11/15 Liquid functionaries that watch over each other is similar in some ways and arguable superior in others. Not the least of which is that there are more parties required to collude to steal user funds in a fully auditable blockchain. Another advantage that is underestimated is the lower complexity of Liquid wallets, which results in a smaller attack surface for users. There are many protocol level threats to consider in Lightning due to the protocol’s vast complexity. Liquid wallets are not exposed to these threats while the funds are being held offline. Furthermore these wallets can be held in cold storage and secured via geographically redundant multi-sig, something researchers are still attempting for Lightning in the context of the VLS project. That would however require consensus logic for channel-state among cosigners, further increasing client complexity.
As such I believe it is absolutely valid to label a Liquid wallet non-custodial in the context of the Liquid trust model. Just as a Lightning wallet can be considered non-custodial in the context of the LSP/watchtower trust model (nevermind that there are fully custodial elements for smaller amounts in Lightning wallets today to improve UX).
What does that mean for users? FWIW I personally feel more comfortable holding spending sats in a Liquid wallet than an ECash mint or even a self-custody Lightning wallet, especially for larger business transactions. Some users, especially those in areas with human rights violations might prefer ECash due its superior privacy. But every user should make that decision for themselves based on their needs. Security is about economics and there is no one size fits all.
I suspect the underlaying issue that people are trying to point out is that Liquid is a single federation and as such a potential point of centralization for bitcoin. A totally valid argument. While this is true today, I believe we will see multiple sidechains and other federations such as Fedimints, Cashu mints and Ark based wallets all competing with each other as fees go up and as demand for bitcoin as a medium of exchange increases. I suspect all these solutions will find their own market niches.
I am also hopeful for further decentralization of Boltz servers as multiple companies can now host the open source code and provide interoperable submarine swap apis for client apps using the various layers of bitcoin.
All these experiments are good for bitcoin and the cross pollination of ideas will further strengthen the network. Some of these experiments will fail, and I appreciate critical discussion. They keep us honest. And some people even have vested interests to see certain experiments fail. That’s fine. But we should be careful to not adopt cancel culture if we don’t like an experiment. Especially if that experiment does not require an action or a soft-fork from our part. If you down that path, you start acting like a little tyrant, making demands of others. If you were really in favor of freedom, you’d allow others to take responsibility based on their own needs, not yours.
Just my 2 sats worth. Thanks for reading ⚡️

2024-12-05 07:49:00

< 10 sats per cent is such a UX boost

2024-12-03 16:58:58

„Creative tension is the force that comes to play at the moment when we acknowledge a vision is at odds with current reality“ - Peter Senge

2024-12-01 11:15:41

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🔥🔥🔥

2024-11-29 16:23:53

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99% of users haven’t downloaded Zapstore yet. It would be easier to onboard users if an app vendor could put a single link on the website that gives instructions to:
1. Install Zapstore
2. Download the app (with deeplink to the zapstore listing)
Similar to how TestFlight does it. They assume most users don’t have it installed yet. For example see: https://testflight.apple.com/join/HcmDhGAA

2024-11-29 15:28:39

Survey: how are you being paid in Bitcoin? https://x.com/tankredhase/status/1862516182785397008

2024-11-27 14:06:37

Nice! People understand wifi passwords already. Should make it much easier to run a mint for family and friends. #note1rmw…30kg

2024-11-26 20:49:10

The @npub10r8…t2p8 listing for StashPay is also updated to the open source repo ( https://github.com/onionmill/stashpay ). So you can update to version 0.1.5 there now too.

2024-11-26 20:16:20

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Freelancers. Once premium features are there, which will be paid.

2024-11-26 15:23:01

Make sure to change your Obtainium source to this link to get APK updates from now on: #note1yuv…zmkq

2024-11-26 15:14:19

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Github. Link is here: #note1gc0…87xj

2024-11-26 14:38:00

⚡️BOLT12 & Open Source
StashPay 0.1.5 is here for iOS & Android.
Download here: https://stashpay.me
Release notes:
* Add: Upgrade to Liquid SDK 0.5.1
* Add: Send to BOLT12 offer
* Fix: App is now open source (GPLv3)

2024-11-26 12:06:55

StashPay is now Open Source. I wrote about licensing, business models and removing myself and 3rd party vendors as single points of failure: https://blog.onionmill.com/p/stashpay-is-now-open-source

2024-11-25 15:54:09

Nice! Already tested paying the first BOLT12 offer from Phoenix last week. Can't wait to get this out to StashPay testers ⚡️🙌 #note1fkz…nv75

2024-11-25 14:22:32

If you’re building stuff to please/impress others you’ll burn out and resent them.
Building products for yourself is extremely rewarding. If others find them useful too, great. If they’re willing to pay, even better.
But don’t go out trying to rescue the world. Otherwise you’ll get stuck in the drama triangle.
And be grateful for your haters. It means you’re doing something people care about.

2024-11-24 15:39:57

“I’m not here to fit in. I’m here to be who I am.” https://youtu.be/SyWC8ZFVxGo

2024-11-23 12:36:10

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Yes, that order makes sense to me.

2024-11-23 09:12:22

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Mmmh. I’d label it a self-custody Liquid wallet with Onchain/Lightning swaps. Breez uses the marketing term “nodeless” for the Liquid SDK that StashPay uses. But I personally find that term a bit unclear.

2024-11-22 15:08:12

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I’m hesitant to expose liquid addresses to users as a third receive option. IMHO it will take time for users to grasp the difference between onchain and lightning, much less understand what’s actually going on under the hood. For me liquid is an implementation detail that enables low fees and removes a lot of the liquidity headaches we know from LSP based wallets.
And since you asked, I wrote about fees and limits here: https://blog.onionmill.com/p/introducing-stashpay-a-bitcoin-wallet

2024-11-22 08:05:37

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Yep, sending bitcoin from StashPay is a swap-out:
Liquid -> Onchain
Liquid -> Lightning
Depending on which QR code the user scans. If the user scans a lightning invoice from another StashPay or Aqua user, the wallet will do a direct liquid payment to save fees:
Liquid -> Liquid
Liquid low ball fees are currently around 26 sats, so peer-to-peer payments are quite cheep.

2024-11-21 11:59:43

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Sure, you can pay via onchain, lightning or liquid.

2024-11-20 18:57:11

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Yep, it’s a liquid wallet and incoming swaps are swapped to liquid. Btw it’s a standard BIP39 seed phrase that can be imported into any Liquid wallet using a BIP84 derivation path e.g. Blockstream Green.

2024-11-19 20:59:52

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I’m watching rn too. Amazing results in 6 months.

2024-11-16 07:53:40

Building and learning out in the open is extremely rewarding if you can put your ego aside. You can iterate quickly. You also get real time signals whether your ideas are any good. If people copy them, it means you’re onto something. This is particularly interesting in bitcoin where everyone basically holds the same equity. You can move the industry in a direction you think is worth exploring as a single bootstrapped indie hacker.

2024-11-15 19:23:09

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Thank you for sharing. I wish you a lot of strength. You’re an inspiration to many. Mein herzliches Beileid.

2024-11-15 16:03:45

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What do you like better about Graphene over Lineage? I looked at installing Graphene but 3a wasn’t supported anymore.

2024-11-15 15:48:52

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Just tried. Works like a charm!

2024-11-15 15:08:12

Just flashed LineageOS on my old Pixel 3a and installed StashPay via Zapstore. I'm amazed how fast the device is now and not a single Google App in sight 😌 https://image.nostr.build/12a7453f0e2c98442b13462597cf4344ab0c9db59a57d0e89275add8adb69fe0.gif

2024-11-15 06:49:38

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It’s built with React Native (an open source project developed by facebook) and Breez Liquid SDK (which uses Boltz submarine swaps). You can read more about it here: https://blog.onionmill.com/p/introducing-stashpay-a-bitcoin-wallet

2024-11-14 07:59:21

Now also on @npub10r8…t2p8 💜
StashPay 0.1.4 is here for iOS & Android. Download here: https://stashpay.me
Release notes:
* Fix: Font color in dark mode

2024-11-13 18:29:26

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It’s fixed in 0.1.4 … update via Obtainium or here: https://stashpay.me

2024-11-13 14:19:26

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Good catch! Thanks, will fix dark mode in the next release.

2024-11-13 14:07:41

StashPay for Android is here 🤖🧡⚡️
https://blog.onionmill.com/p/stashpay-for-android-is-now-in-beta

2024-11-13 08:46:16

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I sent you a DM re Zapstore

2024-11-12 14:55:29

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So I tested Optainium and it worked fine. Do people usually copy/paste a github url themselves when installing a new app?

2024-11-11 21:30:05

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Thanks for all the feedback. That all makes sense. I’ll try and get an APK on github releases in a second repo (until I open source the app repo). Then test how that works with the different app stores. It might break updates once I change the repo though. But I’ll see what works 👍🏼

2024-11-11 18:51:39

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I was big on bits back in the day. But alas people loved sats more 🤷‍♂️
And you’re right. Flipping to USD was next on my todo list after Android. I’ll probably just display local fiat by default like this: https://x.com/lightning/status/1039605395856084992

2024-11-11 16:52:35

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The first wallet we built at Lightning Labs displayed USD by default and flipped to sats when users tapped the amount label. Many wallets do that now: https://blog.lightning.engineering/announcement/2019/06/19/mobile-app.html
I’m kind of experimenting how long I can get away with displaying just sats rn. I don’t like displaying both fiat and sats at the same time. What do you prefer?

2024-11-11 16:28:20

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Do you mean UoA should be USD until we have sat/cent parity? 😁

2024-11-11 16:08:03

Some thoughts regarding open source, business models and @npub10r8…t2p8 … feedback welcome 🙏🏼 #note12an…t8vy

2024-11-11 15:56:14

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Thank you for the info. Really appreciate it!
I’m not so worried about pushing updates from the developer side. I can automate with Fastlane, npm scripts and Github Actions doing the heavy lifting there. I’m more concerned about the install/update UX for users… there are quite a few more steps required to download a third party app store and then navigate to install/update the app vs just clicking “Download APK” on the StashPay website. Users come to the website and TestFlight mostly via my tweets.
I haven’t gotten much traction on Nostr so far unfortunately. Not sure if it’s because people don’t like Liquid over Ecash or if it’s because StashPay isn’t open source? I’ve built open source stuff for 12 years and have not found a viable business model there yet. So I’m self-funding and trying to figure out if I can find customers with a proprietary app+service for businesses. I’m open to open sourcing though once I understand my customer better and the app is out of beta. But I’m also open to feedback in this regard in case closed source is absolutely a no-go for folks.
When I tried zap.store I needed to update apps manually. I know auto-updates are frowned upon by many bitcoiners. And this is understandable for onchain/savings wallets and consensus updates for bitcoin core. But auto-updates seem appropriate to me for more complex apps holding smaller amounts like lightning spending wallets (especially for security updates). It seems like I can get that with auto-updates on Google Play and manual APK installs via my website.
Also, which nsec do developers generally use to sign APKs in zap.store? I assume they don’t paste their primary nsec into a CI?