daniel
Daniel Onren Latorre

Product Lead at Planetary (SSB client) & Nos (Nostr client). Founder & director of The Wise City. Co-created #DigitalPlacemaking practice: wise use of online for offline change. Zen Mestizo based in Brooklyn.

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2023-04-22 14:46:17

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Love it!

2023-04-20 18:42:04

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Check out perplexity.ai … it shows citations for sources which could be even better. Curious how it’d compare for your dev use cases.

2023-04-20 15:29:20

New podcast series by journalist Joanne McNeil— Main Accounts: The Story of MySpace. The time before big social is interesting because there was more peer-to-peer experimentation. Like how Napster came about and shifted everything for a while. It’s important to know our history folks. Check out episode 5 on music:
https://www.iheart.com/podcast/1119-main-accounts-the-story-o-110141076/episode/5-my-music-113380229/

2023-04-19 16:52:24

As #[0] clearly pointed out in his popular #nostrica talk, content moderation is no joke or trivial matter for real global-scale social networking.
Yet another live example: Google and Apple warning Amazon about lack of moderation on explicit adult Kindle content freely accessible to minors.
I wager Amazon gets a cushy warning, while smaller apps would just get delisted.
https://www.macrumors.com/2023/04/18/apple-warns-amazon-about-sexually-explicit-kindle-content-accessible-to-children/

2023-04-17 16:29:10

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I wouldn’t call it complicated back then unless you’re talking about early beta stage.

2023-04-10 20:58:28

If you think catfishing is bad in online daring let me tell you about apartment listings vs viewings in NYC.

2023-04-09 21:19:21

At a pan-latin bistro in Brooklyn but all the music is Colombian salsa 🇨🇴😎

2023-04-09 16:14:37

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So many who naively jumped on this “VRML 5.0” bandwagon will no doubt be shocked. Those of us who know VRML 1.0 was never that useful an idea continue to use our time on more useful tech.

2023-04-08 19:49:49

Who here in the Nostrverse is also looking at AR that leverages decentralized/relay contexts? The informal mode of decentralized seems better suited to more organic use of AR.
So many AR projects from big tech replicate the high modernism of centralized top-down urban planning. They are doomed.
Long tail bread crumb posting for any seeing this now, or later.
#augmentedreality

2023-04-08 19:38:36

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Thanks for the kind words, the team has been working on DWeb tech for years so there is a lot skill to share via our products. We're just getting started with Nostr 🏄🏽

2023-04-08 17:28:10

Good to see more sunshine and critique of Elon Musk here in the Nostr-verse from #[0]’s viral post.
For more on the hype vs reality of Elon, see these two podcast episodes from The War on Cars:
Interview w/ Edward Niedermeyer author of “Ludicrous: The Unvarnished Story of Tesla Motors.”
https://thewaroncars.org/2022/06/28/tesla-is-a-fraud-with-ed-niedermeyer/
Patreon preview with larger summary of Elon grifting.
https://thewaroncars.org/2022/12/20/teaser-what-we-knew-about-elon/
Fun fact, Hyperloop was just a shiny con to fool under-informed people to derail California High Speed Rail, to keep things car-dependant.

2023-04-07 16:46:57

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But it lacks good digital word-of-mouth and regular word-of-mouth semantic uniqueness.
“Did you see that tweet?”
vs.
“Did you see that note?”
The first means something unique w/ a touch of delight.
The second could be anything.
A unique name will likely emerge from the community I wager.

2023-04-07 16:42:16

Mkay. File under surreal Big Tech culture: “In every copy of macOS that has shipped since 2018, Apple has included the original Bitcoin whitepaper by Satoshi Nakamoto, and no-one seems to know why.”
https://www.macrumors.com/2023/04/06/macos-includes-bitcoin-whitepaper/

2023-04-07 00:21:54

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https://support.patreon.com/hc/en-us/articles/360027483391-Community-tools-for-my-patrons
How this is faring vs. Substack’s model will be interesting to see.

2023-04-07 00:20:24

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I’d love to see the data from Patreon’s integrations w/ Discord & Discourse and how their approach is faring for all of them. Interesting comparable for potential w/ Nostr.

2023-04-07 00:17:16

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In SSB it becomes normal that your know you’re just getting a very subjective social xp, but with Nostr the potential is much wider. Search ux so often neglected in non-search centered products.

2023-04-06 15:21:52

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Another reminder of the need for new mobile hardware company that builds for decentralized data sovereignty not intentionally nerfed to bias cloud dependency.
cc #[3] more resonance here.

2023-04-06 13:36:46

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The U is also those who noticed different results to help us squash the bug so it’s really more of a WE… but BWEGS doesn’t ring as well as BUGS 😆

2023-04-06 05:00:08

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I tried this w/ Notion’s AI and it did a decent summary of our 1st podcast you and I did which is so far about 44 mins, 8,000 words transcribed from Descript.com’s app I’m using to edit.
Here’s the not-bad raw result, lightly edited:
The conversation begins with a discussion about the emergence of decentralized, peer-to-peer, user-controlled social media protocols. The speakers discuss how the rise of these protocols is a response to concerns around centralization and the lack of assurances for users when social media is owned by a company that treats it like a shopping mall. They highlight the importance of open networks and the need for social applications that reflect this.
The discussion then moves to the early 2000s and the emergence of blogging and web-based applications. The speakers talk about the democratization of internet communication and the shift towards user-created content. They also touch on the impact of podcasting, which was made possible by a minor change to the technology behind RSS feeds.
The speakers then dive deeper into the history of Twitter and its connection to the development of podcasting. They discuss the founding of a company called Odio in 2004, which aimed to mainstream podcasting and democratize radio. They highlight the company's success in making the experience of finding and subscribing to podcasts easy and how it eventually became Twitter.
The conversation then turns towards the importance of protocols and the impact of small decisions on the future of a platform. The speakers highlight the consequences of Twitter's shift from an open platform to a closed company and the need for mindful development of technology to avoid repeating past mistakes.
In conclusion, this document provides an insightful and detailed conversation about the history of technology and the importance of protocols. The speakers highlight the need for open networks and user-controlled social media protocols, and the potential for mindful development of technology to avoid repeating past mistakes.

2023-03-31 02:40:10

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Keep posting more fotos of my homeland! 🇨🇴 🚵

2023-03-29 15:42:01

I really should have just stayed in Uvita for a month. Here in Brooklyn it was 4 degrees this morning on the way to tennis training. Take me back to la pura vida.

2023-03-29 15:06:19

Coffee metaphors: there are many first wave Nostr clients revolving around crypto. Second wave clients will revolve around broader pluralities who need safe social networking.

2023-03-29 04:09:20

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Really feeling dreams of new music surfing UX on Nostr. Pick up the cultural layers surfing we used to do on p2p apps back in the day. Surfing the metadata.

2023-03-29 02:20:15

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Stated playing with wavelength today and what stood out was the topics in chats, like in telegram, a great way to fend off context collapse in any chat small or large.
For LLM I wish wavelength used perplexity.ai, it’s better and shows the sources/citations which are way more useful for verification & path to primary sources.

2023-03-28 20:03:20

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That’s super detailed! Cool post.

2023-03-27 23:19:29

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Assumption: Mastodon’s very active even if imperfect moderation is why Apple allows this. Nostr never will until real moderation affordances are in the ecosystem. #protocolproductmanagement

2023-03-27 23:14:57

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That was SO much fun for the kid in us all :)

2023-03-27 23:11:57

Notable in iOS 16.4… Product Market Fit signal your protocol/product has successfully crossed the adoption curve chasm to Early Majority? Getting Apple to support inline previews in iMessage.
Took Mastodon 7 years 11 days to get this.
How long for Nostr? Place your bets here 8-)
https://nostr.build/i/nostr.build_1fcc1d7f6b912bae5b12c95f62e7f0109351e2544cc39ac596d5330688e293b7.png

2023-03-27 23:04:50

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All the mountain top pool time was worth it :) much-needed break time… great to meet you IRL!

2023-03-27 22:23:35

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Was just looking at App Store version and saw it was 3 weeks ago… in Nostr time that feels like months ago :)

2023-03-27 20:15:10

How many #productmanager peeps are here on Nostr with over 20 years of experience? Ping me

2023-03-27 20:10:11

Is the reddit stonks flash mob still coherent and organizable for high demand tasks like changing bank accounts? We’ll see on April 1st.
Worth noting: high demand task completion is a sign of either high integrity strong tie organized groups OR cults.

2023-03-27 19:54:18

Noticing creative ways in local culture around me that express commoning. Like this sign at an informal restaurant in Brooklyn.
https://nostr.build/i/nostr.build_7a6713c2d7963689bf18a33d84016910ab157884be41ce3f5a695e5fa79bbc91.jpeg

2023-03-27 02:27:14

Back in Brooklyn after magical times in Costa Rica with our kind Nos crew… quality bowl of ramen the perfect post-flight nourishment
https://nostr.build/i/nostr.build_74bed60d5ba9bda566659cba20d4e0aec41f4e1abed082feabbe36cc032e739b.jpeg

2023-03-26 21:17:50

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And usually the return culture shock is more challenging since questioning one’s own culture/s threatens deeper engrained worldviews of how “the world is supposed to be”

2023-03-26 21:05:57

Gracias #Nostrica, Awake, y Uvita, Costa Rica por todos. Entiendo nos sabio pura vida 🙏🏽
https://nostr.build/i/nostr.build_79cd2abec18f82bef10aa8f129794c1846a05fb73c9d140133ab043599db4766.jpeg

2023-03-26 20:51:40

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Vote for Japan… somewhere less developed… not megacities… like in Gifu at some mountain retreat near the Arikawa/Gins garden of reversible destiny.
https://archeyes.com/reversible-destiny-arakawa-gins/
Or tropical Okinawa surf vibes.

2023-03-26 04:53:03

Reason 256 why we need decentralized tech: Google/YouTube wouldn’t allow #[0] or myself to authenticate our accounts to post the 1h28m hackathon demos video from #nostropical after #nostrica. Despite all our security layers, 2fa, etc. Google basically said since we’re here in Costa Rica outside our “normal” geographic pattern of login we could not upload the video.
It’s like being punished for travel. Which feels so wrong to TCK/global nomad types like us.
So we used #peertube to host the video which was direct, secure and simple. (Hackathon crowd-favorite voting going live now.)
Rabble set up his own video hosting instance on a CDN in about 20 minutes to host his talk: https://iframe.mediadelivery.net/play/107596/a126b554-551f-42dc-a992-0b515883e479
Both ways more indie & liberating than dealing with YouTube.
#floss #dweb #decentralize

2023-03-24 07:20:45

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Later tonight really means tomorrow after 5 intensely social good days.

2023-03-24 07:16:02

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+1 Slower twitter spaces. Yes. This network might suit the aural mode

2023-03-24 07:12:32

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Many North Americans are also returning to their Latin American homelands. birthplaces 🙋🏽‍♂️

2023-03-24 07:09:42

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Yes please #nostr

2023-03-22 17:35:50

After a great #Nostrica thanks to @jack & crew, 33 of us are here for 2 days of #nostropical Nostr hackathon time at Awake, a kind place to co-create.
https://www.nos.social/nostropical
https://nostr.build/i/nostr.build_42f1a16d517e6d810bed590d3247a0f17cedb726183db69f4e57391068ea49dc.jpeg

2023-03-21 22:53:26

Ready for #Nostropical hackathon tomorrow & Thursday, @rabble and the whole team are excited to meet you and learn about your ideas & dreams.
Still more few more spaces for registrations: https://www.nos.social/nostropical
Shoutout to individuals & team leads already registered:
#[1]
#[2]
#[3]
#[4]
#[5]
#[6]
#[7]
#[8]
#[9]
@treesap@treesap.io
#[10]
#[11]

2023-03-21 22:44:30

#[0]
yo

2023-03-21 22:44:14

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2023-03-21 21:47:59

#[0] #[1] let’s use #nostropical as the event hashtag

2023-03-21 21:46:19

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Hey #Nostrica let’s create at NIP for markdown at our hackathon tomorrow and Thursday! Info above ^

2023-03-21 21:43:50

Gm #[0] lol

2023-03-21 21:09:18

Thanks for the support our #nostrica talks about #DecentNostr & protips from Digital Placemaking in how to make a wiser commons on Nostr.
Reminder that we’re running a hackathon tomorrow and Thursday here at Awake. There’s still time to register!
All info here:
https://www.nos.social/nostropical

2023-03-21 16:25:28

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Thanks :) not for Planetary at this time. For those OSs try Manyverse or Patchfox

2023-03-20 20:59:40

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Will DM to sort out time. Hope ear infection is feeling better.

2023-03-20 18:06:04

As #[0] just mentioned here’s all the info on our Nostr hackathon we’re running for 2 days here at Awake right after #Nostrica. Register & let’s co-create 🤙🏽
https://www.nos.social/nostropical

2023-03-19 22:22:59

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And here you are onstage at Personal Democracy Forum 2009... @jack what’s your reflection on then vs now?
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/danlatorre/danlatorre.github.io/main/14926760.jpg

2023-03-19 22:20:45

Life moves pretty fast. Here’s a throw back #[0] to when we met 14 years ago in 2009 at Personal Democracy Forum (PDF) and now I’m working with #[1] leading up product for Nos.social (Nostr) and Planetary.social (SSB) and in Uvita, Costa Rica for #Nostrica. Democracy & tech still our ongoing challenge and focus.
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/danlatorre/danlatorre.github.io/main/1935972_106700122591_3869966_n.jpg

2023-03-19 21:57:00

#Nostrica notes: Pay to play models (aka paid promotion, unlabled ads) are ripe for abuse & negative impacts of all kinds. This is a dark pattern or just bad pattern to not replicate from Big Social.

2023-03-17 20:13:46

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#[1] do you know the story here?

2023-03-17 20:05:19

What was this spike about… looks like some dropped 2 BTC, anyone know why the zaps were so high?
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/danlatorre/danlatorre.github.io/main/Screenshot%202023-03-17%20at%203.19.34%20PM.png

2023-03-17 19:39:26

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Nice!

2023-03-17 19:29:35

Via Emily Bender: Sarah Andrew at #StochasticParrotsDay calling on all people building tech (esp. 'AI') to really feel the extent to which you are holding everyone's human rights in your hands ... and behave accordingly.
#responsibletech #ethicaltech #dweb

2023-03-15 22:21:50

Being present with what is, in all the complexity and unknowns, is where the gold is… as a friend says this is why it matters we learn to “not run from the present moment, or from ourselves.”

2023-03-12 13:41:35

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Cc #[2]

2023-03-12 13:27:44

Have you had a cup of hot cacao this week?
https://youtu.be/REPhW1QvN4g

2023-03-11 14:09:16

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SSB is evolving :)

2023-03-09 01:59:50

Just in! Come for #Nostrica stay for #Nostropical our add on Nostr hackathon w/ 100 million satoshis in prizes thanks to Hard Yaka. Open to virtual teams, but you must have 1 person in-person. See details: https://www.nos.social/nostropical-hackathon
pv 🌞

2023-03-03 22:46:45

Use twitter just as an image host for Nostr images, lol

2023-03-03 22:41:24

#protip do not run Nostur on MacOS

2023-03-03 22:38:44

Friyay

2023-03-03 17:43:50

Every once and awhile a landmark book comes out that you can tell will affect all generations present for it. Congrats Angela Saini! Pick up The Patriarchs, social science writing the world sorely needs to see more clearly. 🙏🏽
#beagoodancestor #dismantlethepatriarchy
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FqUAEx3XoBIb1Ps?format=jpg&name=large

2023-03-01 18:59:02

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Are able to go to Nostrica?

2023-03-01 16:20:48

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Correction, mixed the titles around, (we really need delete in Nostr)
Her prior books were: Superior, on the invention and myths of race pseudoscience, and Inferior, on the invention and myths of male superiority pseudoscience.

2023-03-01 16:14:51

March is Women’s History Month which is a good reminder of the work we need to do, and the learning we need to take in, so women feel safe on Nostr, or any digital communication medium.
Related to this: a core principle in urban public space design — a safe public space is directly correlated with seeing fully representative use by women e.g %50 use. That only happens when more representative research, participation, creation, and review is done in an egalitarian way.
Highly recommend The Patriarchs, a new book that just came out yesterday in the US and today in Europe by one of the best journalists I’ve ever read. This is kind of a trilogy for Angela Saini. Her prior books were: Inferior, on the invention and myths of race pseudoscience, and Superior, on the invention and myths of male superiority pseudoscience.
Check it out:
https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/717453/the-patriarchs-by-angela-saini/

2023-03-01 15:00:10

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Quote source: https://www.forbes.com/sites/rogerhuang/2022/12/29/nostr-is-the-decentralized-protocol-that-might-replace-elon-musks-twitter/?sh=4019af4a442a

2023-03-01 14:59:38

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#[1] this is one big reason why Nostr doesn’t sustain usage… it lacks sufficient content moderation/curation to support different cultural groups use and needs to gather safely.

2023-03-01 14:57:44

“The challenge of a social network has never been really that on the technical level. People don’t join a social network because of how many users a server can support, but rather the users and content that shows up there. It’s a social problem above all else — something well-known to anybody who has built their version of Twitter at a hackathon (though sadly populated by nothing but ghosts of the creator).”

2023-03-01 02:23:15

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Have tried nos2x-fox, will check this one out too

2023-03-01 02:20:48

Who is going to #Nostrica and is also working on relays? Curious about what you're working on. We here at https://Nos.social are going, let's chat 🤙🏽

2023-02-28 21:51:02

Mozilla's Pledge for a Healthy Internet has a lot Nostr development culture can learn from. Thinking about this after seeing more misogyny and racist hate speech here.
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/manifesto/
"The open, global internet is the most powerful communication and collaboration resource we have ever seen. It embodies some of our deepest hopes for human progress. It enables new opportunities for learning, building a sense of shared humanity, and solving the pressing problems facing people everywhere.
Over the last decade we have seen this promise fulfilled in many ways. We have also seen the power of the internet used to magnify divisiveness, incite violence, promote hatred, and intentionally manipulate fact and reality. We have learned that we should more explicitly set out our aspirations for the human experience of the internet. We do so now.
We are committed to an internet that includes all the peoples of the earth — where a person’s demographic characteristics do not determine their online access, opportunities, or quality of experience.
We are committed to an internet that promotes civil discourse, human dignity, and individual expression.
We are committed to an internet that elevates critical thinking, reasoned argument, shared knowledge, and verifiable facts.
We are committed to an internet that catalyzes collaboration among diverse communities working together for the common good."

2023-02-28 20:56:51

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For core keeping up to date on major news: Reuters

2023-02-24 23:35:57

Just testing out Nos 0.1 b4

2023-02-23 21:57:55

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Exactly! Here in Nostr it's deja vu from scuttleverse.

2023-02-23 21:12:19

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Been watching this almost daily. From a product management POV it's part of the immense task of finding product market fit which means a mix of savvy UX and inclusive pluralist appeal to a wide variety of people. Janky alphas and betas can't sustain much recurring use.
The tech-centered protocol culture here has a huge capacity for this as long product and design craft also come on board to take on wider user needs and requirements for distributed web cooperation, to support deep pluralistic inclusive experience, and increase overall cultural diversity.
It's still early days. All this launch data so far in this chart, the rate of growth, offers validation that there's a there-there to further cultivate. But full-on community-centered product strategy and design are required, in addition to foresight in how the engineering of the architecture can support wider needs. Any good product so much more than the technical architecture, the tech side of things is maybe 20% of the solution fit... you need research, product strategy, design, marketing, community engagement, etc.
Just like Mosaic was the client app to demo HTTP viability and validate it, it wasn't until Netscape that we got a better product-market fit for HTTP to cross the chasm. So many products fail because they get stuck within this early adopter geek side of the chasm, and fail to connect with 90% of the potential users.

2023-02-23 19:44:55

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🎸

2023-02-23 19:44:35

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It's Greek to me!

2023-02-22 00:04:21

Edited notes in Nostr!
(edited)

2023-02-21 21:15:58

Product validation signals are always interesting to note — latest notcing is that Ledger's STAX hardware based wallet (designed by Apple's iPod designer) sold out it first run, now back ordered until Fall 2023 or later. Hardware for dweb is going to be critical, capital intensive, but essential to viable data ownership cultures in the dweb pluriverse.
https://shop.ledger.com/products/ledger-stax

2023-02-21 21:03:18

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Ah ha, got it. Didn't discover that UX until just seeing your reply. Tout that on initial install or add section to About.

2023-02-21 07:04:33

Really wish #Iris had a back button. Not having it almost breaks regular use UX.

2023-02-16 04:46:06

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Given how much Nostr comes from Secure Scuttlebutt there's a much more complex story than this that weaves a lot more history and culture beyond the niche that Nostr is so far. It's important to understand the lineages in open source cultural commons.

2023-02-14 18:54:24

#ContextRestoration

2023-02-08 22:49:23

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Musk in Twitter Slack rn: So guys, wait, what's an API?

2023-02-07 15:46:36

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They missed the opportunity to have the domain be mannips.be 😆

2023-02-07 15:43:09

I wonder how many developers have learned about Jazz first through WordPress's release code names. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WordPress#Release_and_requirements_history

2023-02-07 01:51:48

Who here is in NYC or Bogota?

2023-02-07 01:49:50

Who here is going to the https://decentsocial.net/ online conference this Sat. Feb 11? All about how to create new decentralized and p2p networks in wiser & safer ways.

2023-02-06 16:57:22

If Nostr dev culture just replicates the same UX mistakes from prior social media, it won't matter what the protocol is. The protocol alone isn't technofix people think it is, we still need wiser culture in choosing wiser UX.

2023-02-06 16:33:03

As w/ other social networks for the past 20 years... the global feed doesn't make any sense after N network size. Nostr is already well past N.

2023-02-05 21:49:42

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Was the only thing that helped me process and clear PTSD

2023-02-05 21:40:04

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I see... I guess this is like a watered-down ice cream float. I love ice cream floats. Root beer with vanilla ice cream is tops.

2023-02-05 21:31:13

Me:
All technology is political.
ChatGPT (is correct in this case):
Yes, it is true that all technology has political implications. The design, development, and use of technology can reflect and reinforce political values, beliefs, and power structures. For example, the privacy and security features of a technology may impact the extent to which individuals are able to control their personal information and exercise their rights to free speech and association.
Moreover, the allocation of resources and funding for technological research and development can also have political implications, as it can shape the priorities of society and determine which issues and problems are addressed.
Therefore, it is important to consider the political implications of technology and to engage in discussions and debates about the values and goals that should guide its development and use. This can help to ensure that technology is used in ways that align with the interests and well-being of society as a whole.