Liberty Farmer

First off, fiat currencies don't appreciate, they only depreciate.
2nd, the fundamentals of Bitcoin don't change if you save in bitcoin either. So I'm not sure what you are talking about?
Much like people save and spend dollars, if Bitcoin is to be successful, people will save and spend Bitcoin.
The reason is quite simple:
By saving in Bitcoin, your purchasing power increases.
By spending Bitcoin, you are able to transact in ways you cannot do with dollars. (Fast Settlement, hard to censor, etc ..).

2025-04-17 15:05:17

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The amount of Bitcoin it takes to buy an ounce of gold will trend towards zero over time.
I am not sure why you are confused at the idea? It has been happening and will continue to happen as more and more gold is mined and less and less Bitcoin is mined.

2025-04-17 02:49:17

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We all hope not. 😂

2025-04-17 02:49:02

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Welcome!

2025-04-17 02:36:16

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I got a call from 'coimbase' like 2 months ago.
Guy said I had been hacked and my self custody wasn't safe.
So naturally I kept him on the line for about 20minutes, 'unable' to get him my 12 words.
I gave him made up ones, not on the bio. Lol
He finally got so pissed he hung up. Classic scammer.

2025-04-17 02:33:28

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Thank you!!

2025-04-16 22:30:40

So grateful to the open sats team! What an honor to receive funding for HAMSTR. Major progress incoming over the next few weeks. Stay tuned!
#nevent1q…gp98

2025-04-16 20:53:08

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Why can't it be both? People have savings accounts in a bank. They have a checking account. When you need or want to buy something bigger, you can move money from the savings.

2025-04-16 15:18:18

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Each time he tells you a story about the fish he swallowed it gets 3" bigger. 😂

2025-04-16 15:08:57

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That's because gold is a horrendous medium of exchange. It isn't practical to do so in any way. Bitcoin is both. And yes, there is a constant struggle and fight within Bitcoin as to which it is.

2025-04-16 15:07:27

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To make it simpler, yes. Gold is priced in dollars globally. So you have to also then use dollars for Bitcoin.
Only if/when gold gets priced in Bitcoin in global markets can you compare without the 3rd party dollars.

2025-04-16 14:00:29

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If Bitcoin goes to $1M and gold continues it's growth rate to $5K in a decade, gold will be at .005. that's trending towards zero.
It will never hit zero.
You are free to say gold is going down, but that doesn't cover it.

2025-04-16 13:56:37

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Yes. Towards zero.

2025-04-16 12:59:53

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It’s a fact. Much like every shitcoin. As long as there is at least one holder, they can’t go to zero ever. They just keep trending that way into smaller and smaller decimals.

2025-04-16 03:11:17

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They as are churning through cash for now. Lost billions last year. They are raising so much capital currently, it makes sense to to this now, not after/if they make a profit later on. Not surprised at all.

2025-04-14 03:23:12

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Before throwing podcasts at her, let's remove her Coke dealer first.
Then let's see how she does.

2025-04-14 02:43:53

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Hmm, fascinating!

2025-04-13 23:41:17

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Maybe, maybe not. This enables them to remove capital controls. Dollars will flow more now as he wanted.

2025-04-13 22:57:15

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I don't follow when you say the coordinator can claim to be unable to make . What cordinator? Do you mean channel counterparty? An easy way around this is having at least a few channels in your node.
You can always close the channel as well and get the on chain back.

2025-04-13 22:33:53

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Don't touch the thin mint recipe. All others are fair game.

2025-04-13 20:31:33

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What the fuck are you talking about?
Either you want to bet, or you don't.
It was your idea to bet.
Either back your bearish prediction up or pussy out. I don't particularly care which, your call.
Well, I do love free sats though....

2025-04-13 18:55:35

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That doesn't mean anything.
I asked you twice what you want to bet and the terms.
How about:
No later than the end of this year, M2 will be higher than it ever has been both globally and in the US, and the fed balance sheet will be at least 3% higher than today.
If it hits these at any time during the next 8 months, I win.
50k sats?

2025-04-13 17:36:40

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I guess you aren't serious.
No worries. Have a great Sunday.

2025-04-13 13:47:21

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Yikes.
Welcome to the club, lol.

2025-04-13 05:52:35

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Yeah. I use whatever I have on hand typically. I'm no soy snob.

2025-04-13 05:20:12

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Just hit the soy early and hot.

2025-04-13 05:18:55

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Typically the soy 'burning' gives it that flavor. It is more of a carmelizing

2025-04-13 04:51:48

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I use a hot wok.

2025-04-13 04:04:30

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Excuse me sir, your approval rating has dropped by 10pts in just 2.5 months.

2025-04-13 04:03:23

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See above other reply, I have no idea why the reply did not properly broadcast.

2025-04-13 03:46:04

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So what are we betting?

2025-04-13 03:45:31

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Clearly you don't.

2025-04-13 03:45:00

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A few ways:
Roughly 10% of all mortgages are adjustable rates
Insurance products and companies are largely based around the bond markets. Insurance rates will continue to go upwards.
Continuing:
I should also include renters rent and prospective home buyers as well.
Finally:
Nevermind the pensions and retirement products that get wrecked when rates climb. Social security owns trillions in treasuries that are at very low rates. The trust has been and will continue to take a plunge.
Finally, along the printing line, Trump has already floated some food/farmer help to juice the markets. That would be new money alongside his few hundred billion in defense spending increases he wants.
The money printer goes better.

2025-04-13 01:19:03

#ICP among others are up 2.3% today.
The question I have is why??? Look at this USD chart. The Bitcoin chart looks worse. Who would buy this? And for what?
https://image.nostr.build/ce3fa7ef640f12c4f03d296ad42d780291090d752421659b34fa1515efc05faa.jpg

2025-04-13 01:17:47

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They are. Much of the Chinese crapola is now actually laos, Cambodia, Vietnam and so forth.
Chinese manufacturing is becoming incredibly high tech and amazing.
I was blown away seeing it in person.

2025-04-13 01:16:24

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Who's decision? Congress?

2025-04-13 01:16:02

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I need to correct myself:
The US floods the globe with dollars. Some to China, some to others. Everyone trades with each other and ends up with dollars. China and others buy treasuries

2025-04-12 20:42:07

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Oil mostly came fromarine life, plakton, etc... not dinos. Common misconception.

2025-04-12 20:32:58

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And the dollar is dropping like a rock. I suspect we will happen soon as the yield is skyrocketing, costing the federal government and homeowners hundreds billions.

2025-04-12 20:31:46

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M2 has been increasing in the US for 14 months and ramping up for the past 3. M2 globally has been increasing for about 3 months and just getting going.
I'm not sure what you want to bet? It's a fact.

2025-04-12 18:21:06

Hahahahaha. That didn't take long. Lobbyists have entered the chat ...
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/12/trump-exempts-phones-computers-chips-tariffs-apple-dell.html

2025-04-12 17:52:15

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It's still hilarious to me that he blamed 'the speculators', and not the faft they the US wasn't able to stop spending and couldn't offer gold back to France and others for years.

2025-04-12 16:13:18

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Yeah, sorry.
But I'll add, I HOPE you see the correct one. I want them to save hundreds of billions.

2025-04-12 16:04:08

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The building will be used for storage. Employees will still come and go. Insurance savings will be minimal, but some.
Trash is forced fixed cost as is water/sewer in the complex.
Electricity will be cut down to minimal cost, however they didn't have high use previously as their is a landlord credit given with the lease. Some savings here.
For sure the internet bill is gone.
I am completely ballparking as I do not have access to their insurance, full electric, or internet cost.
If I am wrong, ok.
Gotta go. Peace.

2025-04-12 15:55:08

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I own a 9 unit commercial complex, my own 5k sqft building, and run own a biz condo in a complex. Lol, but ok.

2025-04-12 15:45:40

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And therin lies some of the scam.
Either way, have a great Saturday. I've got a freezer to fill with my beef order.

2025-04-12 15:39:25

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Of course not. It may save $200 per month. That's likely high.

2025-04-12 15:37:20

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Sorry, I wasn't clear. There is no dispute on the amount. The amount is accurate as best as I can tell from both the landlord and federal employees. The timeline and claiming it is being saved is the issue. By the time the lease is up, the Dems will have taken back the house and Senate, and if large enough, could freeze everything in the savings.

2025-04-12 15:34:48

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Tell you what. I'll change my original note:
I am very skeptical of DOGE's savings claims. The reason I am skeptical to them being as high being as high as their website claims to be saving money from a local federal office that is near me is not actually closing for 1.5-2 years due to a costly lease termination requirement. The staff will however move to a close by office. So I suppose there will be some electricity and internet savings.
Because of this local claim, while possible, I find it hard to believe this is the only listed savings on the DOGE website that isn't completely accurate.
Better? 😉

2025-04-12 15:24:48

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Yes, a conversation.
It's not a debate if neither side can prove their opinion to be true, nor do I care to sway you. It's just chatting as normal people do. In this case it is impossible to sway one side or the other using data, since the data doesn't exist. Or at least normies do not have access to it. All we have is a partisan website with random shit on it that may or may not be true.

2025-04-12 15:13:49

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Debating what? It's my opinion.
You have yours. Neither of us have access to government inside documents that show whether the doge website is complete bs or is on track to actually save 200B.
What is there to debate?

2025-04-12 15:12:36

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0% employment should be the goal. While not possible, a fantastic goal!

2025-04-12 15:09:55

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Yes, my opinion is 95% of doge is contracts that dont exist, leases that can't save money for a while and BS.
So? I didn't say you must change your mind here is why.
You are free to believe in villain Elon, I am free to not.
The fact that only 4k government jobs were lost in March is telling though, isn't it? When supposedly a a hundred thousand had been fired.
Have a great day.

2025-04-12 15:07:12

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I completely disagree.
Robots should do everything. The money should be sound. We shouldn't have to work more than a few hours per week(unless you want to) as purchasing power skyrockets from tech and productivity.

2025-04-12 15:04:33

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Sorry, I didn't realize we were debating the effectiveness of it.

2025-04-12 15:03:52

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I have no beef with stocks dropping. The bond overnight issues however deeply concern me. It could have been BAD had he not caved.

2025-04-12 15:02:35

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It's a fun meme, but if global liquidity markets actually freeze worse than 2008, lending stops, trade and shipping stops, banks halt withdrawals, payroll companies have no money, businesses can't pay rent, people lose jobs and home, groceries have less food, and on and on.
The purchasing power of Bitcoin would drop tremendously as people need other currencies to buy things they need and to just stay afloat. Since as you say, they saved in it.
In the future, yes. On 2025? No.

2025-04-12 14:59:38

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Hahaha. Indeed!

2025-04-12 14:59:03

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Oh. Nah, I'm not going to dox myself and/or town, sorry.

2025-04-12 14:32:15

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GM!

2025-04-12 14:27:33

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Ah. In my view, there is nothing good about going back to manufacturing. Putting my neighbors into a factory stamping steel or making tools is not a good thing. IMO.

2025-04-12 14:26:02

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I realize it's a minor point, as your circle is correct, but your starting point is wrong.
The US buys goods from China is actually the starting point. The excess dollars created by the US buying their products causes them to buy us land, equities, energy, us goods, and of course treasuries.
China doesn't just have a bunch of dollars randomly to buy treasuries they can't create them out of thin air like the fed does.

2025-04-12 14:23:24

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A damn close global credit meltdown isn't noise....as much as we may hate it, the world runs on us credit and bond markets.

2025-04-12 14:07:52

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Huh?

2025-04-12 13:35:12

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DOGE is a complete lie. They will have end up saving maybe a few Billion.
I have a USFS branch office in my town that was on the cut list from Doge. The website said savings of 60k per year. The kicker? The lease goes for another 2 years, and the employees are staying on anyways. It's a scam. A lie.
All of these cutes will be eaten up by Trump's Tariffs causing major trade disruptions, less US global involvement and his defense increases.
Also, his new budget plan talks about cutting NASA, which I did NOT have on my Bingo card! Elon is pissed.

2025-04-12 13:31:02

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Ermmm, Bitcoin mining doesn't have emissions.

2025-04-12 13:29:58

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20:1 would have been better.
And moreover they didn't specify an announcement vs a sale of one, lol.

2025-04-12 12:56:10

Watching bitcoiners on NOSTR argue for tariffs and government intervention is one of the most insane things I’ve ever seen.

2025-04-12 12:53:34

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Why is supporting local better? Says who?
If the best value per dollar for a product is next town over, great. If it is from China or France or Russia. Great.
It is amazing to me how many people don’t understand how advanced and automated Chinese factories have become.

2025-04-12 12:42:47

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We are on the verge of major fiat money printing to stave off the global collapse as trade dries up and the dollar drops

2025-04-11 16:21:32

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Who is? And what are they doing to kill the planet?

2025-04-11 02:16:22

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Nah. He made an executive order. BIG difference.

2025-04-11 00:54:58

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FYI, can't zap you....

2025-04-10 22:15:24

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Buy why? It costs me $150 to run payroll and they assume all the risks, processing, paying taxes, filing with the IRS, handling deductions, child support, etc...
I think perhaps if you were doing payroll for 50-100 workers with strict regulations you may understand payroll companies value.

2025-04-09 03:18:33

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300? Weak sauce.

2025-04-07 19:33:30

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It's 85 here today, lol.

2025-04-07 19:05:49

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There is no logic to this chart. Massive losses happening by many, many miners.

2025-04-07 02:32:04

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Everyone is in equities, they just don't know it.... The entire world is run on them. Rates are based on them, trade, factories, credit, payrolls, and on and on

2025-04-05 22:45:00

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*SWR

2025-04-05 22:44:49

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Did you see test the antenna connector? Perhaps you have a short or fault from the board to antenna.

2025-04-05 14:55:08

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FYI, Bezos' hasn't ran Amazon in like 4 years.

2025-04-05 02:34:02

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Lol, a tad early to claim that. Could wake up tomorrow to a 8% drop 🤣

2025-04-05 02:33:39

Coinbase has become the biggest shitcoin pusher in the world.
Forgot I had it installed on my phone, got a notification that DOGINME can now be traded on coinbase.
Seriously, wtf?? DOGINME??

2025-04-04 17:29:25

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It's not working very well. Dangerous game of chicken as inflation is already ticking back up and we are in a flat to negative GDP growth phase. Fed may not budge and markets have responded just a bit.
Because he keeps saying he wants to go back to the 50s and 60s manufacturing levels and worker wages. Completely ignoring the fact that it is impossible

2025-04-04 16:24:27

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Trump has never said that's the reason. Bessent has inferred this however. Trump is a senile old man that thinks we will go back building stuff in the 50s. He and Biden share that philosophy.
However, if we are to keep printing money, and keep being the global reserve, this is not mathmatecially possible.

2025-04-04 16:21:24

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I would too, but they aren't going to do that, ever.

2025-04-04 16:17:21

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Counterpoint:
They are going to tax, print, and steal Bitcoin anyways. I'd rather them buy Bitcoin or gold for that matter with said monies to at least have a future stockpile of a solid asset than on bombing a sovereign country.

2025-04-04 04:21:04

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Haha. Hey, with enough will power, you can likely control anything with radio!

2025-04-03 23:57:14

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I tried to make one a few years back, the docs sucked and my phones bad. Not sure if it has gotten any better. Claude?

2025-04-03 21:34:14

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You go on foverr and hire someone from Pakistan for $50. 🤣

2025-04-03 18:35:41

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They are already doing it, and it's winter early spring... Oh boy.