Adam Dalliance (npub1nt8…ncwa) 😁 Indeed yes, Zuck and Musk are Jeffs too. But at first, compared to the actual Jeff running a Fediverse instance, Zuck and Musk are part of "organizational Jeffs" that are subject to certain (although at times vague and difficult-to-enforce) legal regulations. At a while ago I stumbled across this - denise.dreamwidth.org/91757.ht… - and I seriously wonder how many of the people running Mastodon / Fediverse instances know about that.
But, what's more bothering here: Do we make things better by just "replacing one Jeff with another", architecture-wise? Or should we instead throw much more effort at solutions such as ssb, *cough* nostr, ... to make people able to go without any Jeff at all (or, as a temporary solution, focus on approaches such as Zot that at least reduces dependency on that particular Jeff)? 😉
I'm not really opposing the current Fediverse approach, otherwise I probably wouldn't be here. But, as far as I see, one of the core ideas was that there are "small" instances of trustworthy admins running infrastructure for a somewhat closely defined community of people. While that sounds good in theory, it feels increasingly out-of-touch with reality... . Do we have ways to better "motivate" such a structure, or to get people to build more of these structures all along this way? From that perspective, generic "catch-all" Mastodon instances don't seem to fit in at all and still they're here and (apparently?) carrying quite a load of the users in these platforms...?
Chris Trottier (npub1u7y…pyyz) jan :mastodon: (npub18r0…59cp)
Kristian /
npub1np…k3lrs
2023-04-25 10:49:52
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