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📅 Original date posted:2015-08-18
📝 Original message:And this is how the powers that be compromise bitcoin. They can't stop
TCP/IP, but they sure can take over the development team. It's a good thing
that no one from the CIA has had any conversations with anyone from the
bitcoin development team. Phew...
On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 11:57 AM, Oliver Egginger via bitcoin-dev <
bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> Am 18.08.2015 um 11:15 schrieb Warren Togami Jr.:
> > I honestly don't understand your position, but I get the sense that you
> > are suggesting Satoshi wouldn't be welcome to return if he wanted to be
> > active in development again?
>
> Who am I? Personally I have zero objection if the creator steps in. I
> think he would be highly welcome by the most people. At first I had the
> impression that the email was a fake, but maybe I was wrong. At the
> moment I think: Maybe it's even the best if we do not know exactly
> whether it was Satoshi or not.
>
> Unanimity is mission critical for Bitcoin and must be an absolute
> priority. If not the vast majority is in favor for a fork, then the fork
> should be avoided until a consensus is found. Even if it takes until the
> cows come home.
>
> But it is very likely now that it will come to a fork. No matter which
> site will win, this will produce a lot of humiliated people at the end.
> That's not good and leads to bitterness on both sites.
>
> - oliver
>
>
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2023-06-07 17:35:43

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📅 Original date posted:2015-08-17
📝 Original message:Satoshi,
As much as I want to believe this is you it's very difficult to ignore the
fact that Vistomail could have been hacked and I'm currently speaking to a
troll.
Can you copy and paste what you wrote above, to
http://p2pfoundation.ning.com as well, like how you did during the Dorian
fiasco?
Much appreciated.
On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 10:43 AM, Satoshi Nakamoto via bitcoin-dev <
bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> I have been following the recent block size debates through the mailing
> list. I had hoped the debate would resolve and that a fork proposal would
> achieve widespread consensus. However with the formal release of Bitcoin
> XT 0.11A, this looks unlikely to happen, and so I am forced to share my
> concerns about this very dangerous fork.
>
> The developers of this pretender-Bitcoin claim to be following my original
> vision, but nothing could be further from the truth. When I designed
> Bitcoin, I designed it in such a way as to make future modifications to the
> consensus rules difficult without near unanimous agreement. Bitcoin was
> designed to be protected from the influence of charismatic leaders, even if
> their name is Gavin Andresen, Barack Obama, or Satoshi Nakamoto. Nearly
> everyone has to agree on a change, and they have to do it without being
> forced or pressured into it. By doing a fork in this way, these developers
> are violating the "original vision" they claim to honour.
>
> They use my old writings to make claims about what Bitcoin was supposed to
> be. However I acknowledge that a lot has changed since that time, and new
> knowledge has been gained that contradicts some of my early opinions. For
> example I didn't anticipate pooled mining and its effects on the security
> of the network. Making Bitcoin a competitive monetary system while also
> preserving its security properties is not a trivial problem, and we should
> take more time to come up with a robust solution. I suspect we need a
> better incentive for users to run nodes instead of relying solely on
> altruism.
>
> If two developers can fork Bitcoin and succeed in redefining what
> "Bitcoin" is, in the face of widespread technical criticism and through the
> use of populist tactics, then I will have no choice but to declare Bitcoin
> a failed project. Bitcoin was meant to be both technically and socially
> robust. This present situation has been very disappointing to watch unfold.
>
> Satoshi Nakamoto
>
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