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2023-06-07 15:18:42

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📅 Original date posted:2014-04-16
📝 Original message:You’re right. That’s a huge oversight. I think any software product you’ve ever considered installing has a section that says
“Hey, we want this much ram on your system, this much disk space, this processor, etc”.
Otherwise, you’re just setting yourself up for a bad user experience from people with marginal machines.
On Apr 16, 2014, at 9:44 AM, Mark Friedenbach <mark at monetize.io> wrote:
> We don't support XP. In fact we don't support *any* distribution, but I
> will assume you mean "provide a binary which runs on X." Can you find
> any reference to Windows XP on the website? I can't.
>
> On 04/16/2014 09:41 AM, Chris Williams wrote:
>> It may not be our place to say whether XP is secure or not, but if we say that we support it then we have to run test passes against XP as a platform, and if an XP user reports a bug, then we have to do something to address it. So, it becomes a test and support issue, not a security issue.
>>
>> That’s why it doesn’t make sense to support an OS platform that the original vendor (MS) no longer supports themselves.
>>
>> On Apr 16, 2014, at 9:35 AM, Mark Friedenbach <mark at monetize.io> wrote:
>>
>>> On 04/16/2014 09:27 AM, Kevin wrote:
>>>> Should we then add an alert message to wallet installers such as, "Such
>>>> and such will not run on windows xp?"
>>>
>>> It's not really our place to police that ... plus it's perfectly safe to
>>> be running Bitcoin Core as a full node on XP. It's just the wallet
>>> functionality that people should be careful about. We're talking about
>>> such a small intersection of people who are running XP, have systems
>>> powerful enough to run Bitcoin Core, and use the wallet functionality.
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2023-06-07 15:18:42

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📅 Original date posted:2014-04-16
📝 Original message:It may not be our place to say whether XP is secure or not, but if we say that we support it then we have to run test passes against XP as a platform, and if an XP user reports a bug, then we have to do something to address it. So, it becomes a test and support issue, not a security issue.
That’s why it doesn’t make sense to support an OS platform that the original vendor (MS) no longer supports themselves.
On Apr 16, 2014, at 9:35 AM, Mark Friedenbach <mark at monetize.io> wrote:
> On 04/16/2014 09:27 AM, Kevin wrote:
>> Should we then add an alert message to wallet installers such as, "Such
>> and such will not run on windows xp?"
>
> It's not really our place to police that ... plus it's perfectly safe to
> be running Bitcoin Core as a full node on XP. It's just the wallet
> functionality that people should be careful about. We're talking about
> such a small intersection of people who are running XP, have systems
> powerful enough to run Bitcoin Core, and use the wallet functionality.
>
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2023-06-07 15:17:38

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📅 Original date posted:2014-04-07
📝 Original message:I’m afraid this is a highly simplistic view of the costs of running a full node.
My node consumes fantastic amounts of data traffic, which is a real cost.
In the 30 days ending Apri 6, my node:
* Received 36.8 gb of data
* Sent 456.5 gb data
At my geographic service location (Singapore), this cost about $90 last month for bandwidth alone. It would be slightly cheaper if I was hosted in the US of course.
But anyone can understand that moving a half-terrabyte of data around in a month will not be cheap.
On Apr 7, 2014, at 8:53 AM, Gregory Maxwell <gmaxwell at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 8:45 AM, Justus Ranvier <justusranvier at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 1. The resource requirements of a full node are moving beyond the
>> capabilities of casual users. This isn't inherently a problem - after
>> all most people don't grow their own food, tailor their own clothes, or
>> keep blacksmith tools handy in to forge their own horseshoes either.
>
> Right now running a full node consumes about $1 in disk space
> non-reoccurring and costs a couple cents in power per month.
>
> This isn't to say things are all ducky. But if you're going to say the
> resource requirements are beyond the capabilities of casual users I'm
> afraid I'm going to have to say: citation needed.
>
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