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2023-04-05 12:27:13

Been away for a while, what's the general of status of moderation nowadays ? Have some relays implemented some kind of relay-sided moderation features or is it still the wild west with paid relays having less spam ?

2023-01-16 16:34:43

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It should be instant. Your nostr.json looks correct to me, have you set your NIP-05 identifier correctly on your client ?

2023-01-03 18:14:13

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I checked the NIP page out yesterday, I must be blind, thank you ^^

2023-01-03 17:49:05

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Is there any way (regarding the NIPs) to implement a real >private< relay, as in no users can read from it without logging in / completing a cryptography based challenge ?

2023-01-03 17:45:13

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Sounds interesting, but I feel like it would give users a false sense of security when using this feature, which will become even more important as non-tech people join nostr communities

2023-01-02 22:31:35

Just updated my Vanity pubkey generator to support bech32! Benchmarks coming tomorrow :)
https://github.com/lacaulac/nostr-pubminer

2023-01-02 20:39:26

Just released a pubkey miner tool. It currently only supports hexadecimal vanity pubkeys, but I might improve on that. I've found that it performs better than Rina, but your mileage may vary, I'm nowhere near an optimisation expert.
https://github.com/lacaulac/nostr-pubminer

2023-01-02 19:41:33

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I had made a basic version of that (no fancy uniquing and some bugs) in rust a few days ago : https://pastebin.com/hjgdebmP.
It's just two clients communicating together

2023-01-02 18:33:52

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That's also a problem with the GDPR (european data privacy and stuff laws), which I think (not a lawyer) impacts at least relays hosted in the EU.

2023-01-02 18:29:39

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On a scale from 0 to 10, you're fucked
(my best guess)

2023-01-02 17:57:49

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There's also a similarity between this idea and kind 44 (see NIP28). Even though the latter was designed for channel-based chat, I feel like this could work too.

2023-01-02 17:56:20

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Introducing that as a NIP would mean introducing a feature that could be linked to censorship (or moderation, depending on the side you're on) to the nostr protocol and I'm not certain how that'd be received.

2023-01-02 17:46:31

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I guess one could send report by using a special kind of event that references an account and/or another event and is being registered by the relay. This would need client to be aware of which relays the message has been received from. Relay ops can then do whatever (or nothing)

2023-01-02 15:48:08

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https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nips/blob/master/19.md#shareable-identifiers-with-extra-metadata

2023-01-02 14:04:34

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This sounds like you can break the TOS as much as you want, as long as you've got money.

2023-01-02 13:57:08

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I'm pretty sure there's always gonna be unmoderated relays. In the end, using an open protocol to run social platforms is about letting users decide how they want to use it, is it not ?

2023-01-02 13:54:26

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The incentive is having a troll-less community. And if someone running one of those relays turns out to be a despot, users can just move to another relay.

2023-01-02 12:32:35

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Nevermind, hadn't read it all !

2023-01-02 12:30:10

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Do you have an ETA on that ? The client looks gorgeous

2023-01-02 11:39:58

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Why would moderated relays be an issue? I don't see anything wrong with wanting to use a platform with moderation, just like a Discord server would be.

2023-01-01 22:47:45

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An option could be to mostly hide this feature on desktop platforms and show it on mobile platforms until more mature options exist \_(''/)_/
I do agree that inputting those keys willy-nilly is a shite idea.

2023-01-01 22:46:50

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I trust you, I'm mostly worried about adoption. Transitioning from launching a webapp via a link to a multistep process (or installing android SDK) won't be much enticing to people.

2023-01-01 22:17:44

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Android users currently only have Nostros as a pre-built solution, which was still quite buggy a few days ago. Removing this would unfortunately make it even more annoying for android users.

2023-01-01 19:17:14

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I see an invoice with "amount: none specified"
I just think jb55 is testing a new feature for his client :)

2023-01-01 19:02:36

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I mean, this works on astral

2023-01-01 18:01:10

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The HTTPS certificate needs to correspond to the relay's domain and be signed by a valid entity. But I wouldn't be surprised if chinese software had a Governement-issued root certificate authority, which means the gov could craft certificates that'd be "valid"

2023-01-01 17:49:07

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Yeah, I'm unsure how that could be implemented, unless you're (like SSH haha) encrypting the client<->relay comms (which might also be on top of HTTPS, as most relays run websockets over https) using the server's "known" pubkey

2023-01-01 17:47:36

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I think definition could always be useful, like in an appendix (i don't speak legalese). I just really don't get the idea behind that sentence then.
You're most welcome :)

2023-01-01 17:29:49

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I would find a larger "Discovery" feed (e.g. showing posts from followees of the people you follow) pretty useful in order to extend the follow lists, as reading global is becoming less and less ideal.

2023-01-01 17:22:20

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Oh, didn't know that ! I was running a local one with in-relay filtering and mirroring but never seemed to run into issues. Thanks for letting me know :)

2023-01-01 17:19:05

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May I know what the problem with nostr-rs-relay is ? Genuinely curious

2023-01-01 17:12:58

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Is this in order to make sure a proxy relay wouldn't shadow ban the user or filter what they receive ?

2023-01-01 17:09:50

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I don't really get the principal behind make people pay fees when they misbehave. It just feels like misbehaviour is allowed as long as you can pay for it.

2023-01-01 17:04:31

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I guess we could draw inspiration from SSH on that one, storing the server's pubkey the first time we connect there and then make the server answer a challenge every time we connect. But anyone can connect to a relay (without trying to pose as it) and listen to public events

2023-01-01 17:01:41

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Yup, we just need a place to discuss that, because I don't think this would call for a new NIP as this is wouldn't be part of the nostr protocol.

2023-01-01 14:26:20

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I've been experimenting with that too, operating a filtered nostr-rs-relay with a client mirroring messages. Still testing different engines/languages performance and easiness-wise.
Would be great to design a standardised plugin API that could be implemented on relays though.

2023-01-01 13:59:21

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Hell yeah, I feel alone here ahah
Not being a big fan of crypto I do feel like chilling a bit on bitcoin could be great to attract more people😂

2023-01-01 10:46:19

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This would require keeping an oriented graph that could be made public to improve accountability in the vouching process. All the parameters (invite amount, ban-ensued behaviour) should be at the discretion of the relay-operator.
Would be happy to discuss this with anyone :)

2023-01-01 10:42:25

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Every "generation" of invited user could in turn invite other users, with the amount of vouchers decreasing every generation (in order to limit the amount of sockpuppets). Anyone getting banned would at least revoke the invitation rights up to the paying/PoW initial user

2023-01-01 10:40:49

Good morning everyone ! Had a simple idea to simplify integration into protected / moderated relays. In order to limit how paywalled such solutions could be, a simple invitation system could be employed, by which a paying/PoW verified could vouch for another user

2022-12-31 20:07:48

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Well PGP tried, but the idea is always interesting

2022-12-31 19:44:54

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Indeed 😂
I just can't really wrap my head around a solution that could be accessible to people just coming for the first time on nostr without knowing anyone (like I did) apart from Global. Maybe the hashtags could work I guess \_(''/)_/

2022-12-31 19:32:55

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Oh, you mean you'd actually (by default) only take into accounts report signed by keypairs you trust/follow ? That'd be better indeed.
I'm just pained to see how discoverability will be impacted once global becomes a pile of garbage.

2022-12-31 19:28:35

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Wouldn't work, it's super easy to have a bot change use a different keypair everytime it posts. The next thing would be rate limiting IPs, but proxies, Tor and proxified VPNs are a thing. And blocking those is pretty anti-privacy so a no-go too in my book.

2022-12-31 19:27:12

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I don't see how that could be done without having a sort of federation of relays that cooperate on such a list. Using user reports is absolutely worthless (anyone can make a bot with throwable keys, and nip 5 verification can juste be purchased by someone determined enough)

2022-12-31 19:24:58

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Indeed

2022-12-31 19:09:29

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You can't prevent anyone to create a thousand keys/account and creating a lot of those reports (because that's what they are) and yeeting someone into oblivion

2022-12-31 19:06:19

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Well, you sure can block a pubkey. Just add an if condition (or smth more elaborate, just making a point) before relaying the message :)

2022-12-31 17:57:10

Has Astral any option to block certain users ? That bot is annoying af

2022-12-31 17:52:07

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As long as one's got a list of relays, making a program that stores pubkey-relay relations is not that complicated. Storing that much information is way more challenging as the userbase grows though.

2022-12-31 17:47:23

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This looks very interesting price-wise

2022-12-31 16:52:18

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I'm not that worried about the fraud aspect of Bitcoin, I just don't really get the craze and don't like PoW.
Pretty happy to be able to have a civic discussion about it tho :)

2022-12-31 16:44:04

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Also, even in western europe (France), our gov has been warning us about potential electricity cutoffs due to an energy shortage during the winter, so I'd guess we're not the only ones that could have those problems.

2022-12-31 16:40:01

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I mean, even if that worked, would those countries want to share or even be able to ? Canada has large hydroelectricity capabilities (thanks to Québec <3) but that electricity ain't getting to western Europe.

2022-12-31 16:26:49

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That I agree with, there's just so much more room to manipulate people when the subject is completely new to them, and so many people are taking advantage of it. Not here to argue tho :)

2022-12-31 16:00:02

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I tend to see a lot happening with crypto (2/2)

2022-12-31 15:59:44

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No, there's also the concern that I have for everything that involves the potential of trading, be it stocks or crypto. There's always been a high tendency of cons and scams to appear and even though the stock related ones have generally disappeared, (1/2)

2022-12-31 15:55:22

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I'm not sure I agree. I'm not so fond of proof-of-work (regarding the global need to scale down energy usage) which makes me a bit wary of bitcoin (even though lightning certainly seems to improve on that point) but I do very much enjoy the principles employed by nostr :)

2022-12-31 15:50:21

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The only thing preventing making an instagram-clone built on nostr is the image hosting situation right now 😂

2022-12-31 15:44:37

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Botnet infrastructure is actually pretty viable

2022-12-31 15:44:17

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Nostr is only getting associated with bitcoin thanks to the people working on the ecosystem being crypto enthusiasts. At its core, it isn't linked with crypto

2022-12-30 20:13:00

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Even the correct repo ? https://github.com/fiatjaf/relayer/tree/master/expensive

2022-12-30 20:01:05

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There's also this solution, which makes it a one-time fee https://github.com/fiatjaf/expensive-relay

2022-12-30 15:05:40

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You could use a solution such as mine to implement mirroring between groups of relays, even if you don't own them :)
(buggy PoC rust code) ( https://pastebin.com/hjgdebmP )

2022-12-30 00:32:01

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Reading you

2022-12-30 00:31:50

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In the end, I strongly suggest you read the protocol's NIPs on nostr's github page (a quick Google search should suffice)

2022-12-30 00:29:54

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Also, relays are supposed to store messages and there's nothing (AFAIK) dictating how long data should be kept for (apart from various law such as the GPRD if you're in Europe or serving European persons)

2022-12-30 00:28:18

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Most messages are public and thus not encrypted, but you can send DMs that are end-to-end encrypted

2022-12-30 00:27:19

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That's not at all how it works. You can send message to other clients through relay servers, that, well, relay your messages. Every message is numerically signed using your private key (read on digital signature and asymmetric cryptography) : your private key is thus like a password and your public key like your username, the latter being visible on every one of your posts.

2022-12-28 11:40:22

What's the "Event not loaded" message about in nostr_console ?

2022-12-28 09:13:14

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Like you can get banned

2022-12-28 09:09:27

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What do they mean when they say "loading sensitive information" ?

2022-12-28 09:04:21

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2022-12-28 09:00:42

Morning!

2022-12-27 23:22:59

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🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈

2022-12-27 23:20:48

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Sometimes I think yeah. I can't seem to be able to change them on nostr.ch and a few web clients.
I managed to setup my relay using the console one (made in go, don't remember the name) and noscl

2022-12-27 23:18:33

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Happens with some apps, like with nostr.ch I'm not able to change the relays it's using

2022-12-27 23:14:03

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What app are you using?

2022-12-27 23:12:54

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I misspoke, I'm trying to connect with people working on that. I've got a beginning of a working prototype aimed towards creating communities and would love to exchange about that

2022-12-27 23:11:11

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Depends on the app

2022-12-27 23:05:22

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Hi! Just testing out the android client nostros

2022-12-27 23:01:49

Hello World!