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https://nostr.technology

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2025-04-05 16:53:37

@nprofile…ptke why instead of showing a big error "unable to load preview" doesn't Coracle just display the original URL?

2025-04-05 03:07:18

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Try the FUTO keyboard, it's the least bad I've ever used.

2025-04-05 03:02:36

wss://lockbox.fiatjaf.com and wss://zapbox.fiatjaf.com will now remove events that aren't exclusive -- i.e. events that can be fetched by anyone in public relays outside themselves.

2025-04-05 00:14:37

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Due to being reminded that some people may be tempted to just add this relay to their list without thinking about it in which case it will make no difference whatsoever for them but will add costs to others I'm changing it to only work if it's your only "read" relay for now. Let me know if you have a use case that requires something different than this (I'm sure there will be in the future and I'm glad to change it).

2025-04-04 23:50:08

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What is the problem with connecting to "more relays"? Why is that a concern?

2025-04-04 23:43:55

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I'll block you.

2025-04-04 21:19:02

I've made this wss://inbox.relays.land/ relay that filters out hellthreads from your inbox as well as anyone that isn't in your "network". It's meant to be used as your only (well, ideally it would be combined with others of course, but if these others don't filter out the hellthread then you're in bad shape) "read" relay (see NIP-65).
The problem is that it doesn't work because clients are all trying to be smart and connecting to different relays in order to fetch more notifications. But those issues are being addressed, see below:
#nevent1q…wmg8
I can't test if it works on @nprofile…89lh, @nprofile…043l's Nostur, @nprofile…cpf0, Yana, Nostrmo and others for now, but if you do please let me know.

2025-04-04 21:11:34

Why can't we just open one subscription to two or three relays of each followed person in order to build the default feed?
If that was possible that would make implementing "outbox" even easier than implementing a client that just uses a static set of relays. Caching notes from is easy, it's easy to continue fetching from where your cache ends. Relay selection is easy, no need to build complex filters aggregating multiple requests and do fancy relay selection based on whom you're following matches whom. Everything is just one loop.
Nostr is easy again, developers are happy. Even the dumbest web developer can do censorship-resistant Nostr clients for everything.

2025-04-04 20:51:08

@npub13er…xeey I have the same problem happening with https://coracle.social/, mentions are coming from a bunch of places.
#nevent1q…nawh

2025-04-04 00:55:28

nak v0.13 has a lot of colors in the stderr output for nak event, nak req and other commands.
Connecting to multiple relays is also finally now done in parallel so commands should run much much faster.
It took so long because I didn't know how to do those cool live-updating terminal outputs (like progress bars), so I was forced to connect to relays sequentially in order to keep the output understandable. Not anymore!, now there is real magic going on (unless your terminal window is too small or you're on Windows, if that is the case then you'll get the old behavior).
Hopefully I didn't break anything, but let me know if I did because the added code complexity wasn't insignificant:
https://github.com/fiatjaf/nak

2025-04-04 00:18:01

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Isn't there an alternative client?

2025-04-03 20:42:54

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Do you have an argument for it, Derekstr?

2025-04-03 20:39:55

This is just stupid: https://codestr.fiatjaf.com/

2025-04-02 17:29:06

Trump will stop the satellites.

2025-04-02 17:26:41

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Do you hate satellites?

2025-04-02 15:08:03

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I've only seen one.

2025-04-02 09:31:14

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Yeah, totally worth a bazillion dollars and gigantic surveillance apparatus just because Joe can't follow a simple map or ask someone in the streets how to get somewhere.

2025-04-01 23:35:05

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This is false, I don't zap.

2025-04-01 02:00:04

I tried to use Brave on Android instead of Firefox and it's super annoying, shows me ads, has some horrific UI patterns, a weird categorization of tabs into boxes that makes everything harder to select and close. Is this what most people use? Did I download a virus?

2025-03-31 14:31:00

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Of course I'm talking about did:plc, which is used by everybody except for about 12 weirdos who have set up did:web, and here you are writing a long paragraph as if did:web was this very obvious thing that all Bluesky users use? This is kind of a shitty argumentation move you have there.
Anyway, did:plc is the only thing that matters because you cannot migrate out of it into did:web, there is no such thing as "claim your identity". Even if it was, did:web is not decentralized anyway, it's just delegating your identity to another centralized third-party.

2025-03-31 14:18:25

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Email got centralized because the spam problem was too hard. On Nostr it's easy for each relay to defend against it.

2025-03-31 14:17:05

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I think it used to open in Chrome before, but now it doesn't open in Chrome, it opens on a webview inside the Google app, no?

2025-03-31 13:31:11

I looked at someone else's phone yesterday and couldn't find a browser app.

2025-03-30 22:59:18

https://23gmt.nostr.technology/ is open.

2025-03-30 15:24:51

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Yes, and saying Nostr goes well beyond social networking is just a bad excuse. Nostr doesn't go well beyond social networking.

2025-03-30 14:31:50

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If what gives the posts authenticity is the fact that they come from someone's homeserver how can that assumption hold when posts are coming from the big indexer?

2025-03-30 14:07:30

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IPFS doesn't work. If it worked we would not need Nostr or relays. We could simply sign notes, publish to IPFS, then publish an updated index of our notes categorized by kind or something like that, then update our IPNS to point to the updated index. People who follow us could just fetch our IPNS record and get our index and download our posts.

2025-03-30 14:03:20

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Can you give an example of what you mean here?

2025-03-30 11:43:57

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I see. That is doable, but I think both use cases should exist.
To me it is desirable that people see you replying to something, but can't see what that something is because it is "premium". Makes it so that people want to pay to see, acts as a discovery mechanism both for the person who is publishing premium content and for the mechanism of publishing premium content itself (i.e. the relay).
Otherwise all the content will just be forever stuck inside the restricted relay and no one will ever see it or realize that it exists.
Never.

2025-03-30 00:47:29

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Meanwhile on Nostr, or "private Nostr" as @npub1xts…kk5s once called it, we have a little bit of make-believe technology, but with better incentives, less blast radius and much more reliable and fine-grained implementations that give us actually much better chances of things working -- and yet @npub1jlr…ynqn thinks it's not enough and wants to run pure encryption functions on all the notes and make everybody's lives miserable for no gain because in the end screenshots still exist and are effectful, negating his purism.

2025-03-30 00:37:36

The level of "privacy" provided by these Mastodon things is so ridiculous it's absurd. And yet apparently it works and people like it and use it?
I mean, that seems to be case from what I can infer from horribly-concerned terrible-writer person here: it's a thing they trust to work, everybody trusts to work, and works most of the time. And they get very angry when it doesn't work -- even though it should be obvious to anyone there is basically nothing preventing it from stopping working completely anytime. It's all make-believe magic-wand technology.
#nevent1q…300g

2025-03-30 00:31:28

Thank you for all who joined @npub1kun…3lhe @npub1n0s…lahe. I had an issue on my end and wasn't able to join, but it was a blast.
#nevent1q…4qrx

2025-03-29 23:38:13

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Sorry, I meant to ask about returning JSON -- Nostr events to be more exact -- in the text field.

2025-03-29 22:47:34

https://23gmt.nostr.technology/ will open in 13 minutes.

2025-03-29 21:10:44

@npub1gzu…a5ds why can't MCP return a JSON response and let the LLM figure out what that means? What should it return instead?

2025-03-29 20:25:14

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In the case of microblogging apps I think the relay concept can be hidden for a long time for new users, actually, as long as outbox works.
But in the case of NIP-29 groups I don't think that should be an option, because you are trusting a server, so you must be forced to at least acknowledge that a server exists somewhere.

2025-03-29 11:39:11

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https://git.fiatjaf.com/23gmt

2025-03-29 11:02:13

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If you're having trouble loading from Blossom these videos are also available on PLC:
- https://plc.surge.sh/#did:plc:riwrh4caneu4elxngo6aogat
- https://plc.surge.sh/#did:plc:xnww4qwrai4tzbxlqsqhyfvq

2025-03-29 11:00:07

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https://nostr-php.dev/ by @npub1qe3…zefe is probably good.

2025-03-29 00:52:01

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That is good. But the problem is not that, the problem is that I think I have so many chats Coop tries to load them all at the same time and then I never get to even see anything? I don't know if that's what's happening really.

2025-03-29 00:49:59

Who made this? @npub13er…xeey

2025-03-28 13:28:04

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@npub1wmr…g240 please fix.

2025-03-28 13:12:09

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We should have clear and simple a HTML website explaining step-by-step specifically how to set up a Nostr community/forum/chatroom and pointing to Flotilla, Chachi or whatnot. Who can make this?

2025-03-28 12:58:08

It's an attack of all forums. Can we save these people?
#nevent1q…r206

2025-03-27 12:38:29

This is my new opinion on AI:
#nevent1q…ddnd

2025-03-27 12:21:55

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Rename it to Drivechain.

2025-03-26 22:44:21

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Works flawlessly after you fixed it.

2025-03-26 15:15:02

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No, it's a proprietary db setting in the server. Maybe in the future, but I think it's too soon to try to standardize these things and I find dealing with events very annoying.

2025-03-26 01:38:36

The obvious solution to all this mess is to make libraries ship source code instead of compiled blobs of whatever.
Maybe there is a reason for this absurd choice that they don't even consider changing, but I can't see it.
#nevent1q…3zny

2025-03-26 01:04:26

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Can you please try https://github.com/fiatjaf/nak mcp command and tell me if it works?

2025-03-26 00:45:29

The social networking dream has finally come true: https://github.com/dpc/rostra
Fully peer-to-peer, very decentralized, uses Iroh and Pkarr, binary payloads, signed messages, merkle trees, advanced synchronization mechanisms, personas mechanism, traverses NAT, DHTs, really good modern and IETF-approved cryptographic algorithms, written in Rust.

2025-03-26 00:35:43

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Please explain the joke.

2025-03-26 00:05:09

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Please share.

2025-03-25 22:38:39

"Choose your own algorithm" will NEVER work on Nostr the way it works on Bluesky.
Smart platform-provided algorithmic feeds like those from X, TikTok or Instagram will NEVER work on Nostr.
Anything that requires filtering from a "global feed" of all notes and delivering that to specific users will never work on Nostr because there isn't and there cannot ever be a global feed on Nostr.
If that is what you think Nostr needs to be good and popular then you'll first have to destroy Nostr by turning it into something else, and then you can implement it.
The alternative is to create something new, a new way of doing discovery, something that actually works nicely within the Nostr constraints, something that actually only works on Nostr because only Nostr has these distributed independent servers with specific owners, specific rules, different users, personalities and preferences.

2025-03-25 19:15:19

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Give an example.

2025-03-25 19:14:50

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When I talk about the idealistic vision I'm not talking about just censorship resistance.
In fact I wasn't even considering censorship-resistance at all, because I was talking about things that could be used without a huge network-effect, and censorship-resistance is only meaningful with a big network-effect. It was more the openness and interoperability and all the modular parts being combined as well as the identity system and so on.
If you consider that as the idealistic vision I'd say we don't have even 0.001% of all the people that should be very interested in it. So I don't see you can think this is limiting Nostr's growth, this is like thinking that the Wall of China is preventing you from ever leaving your bedroom to go to the bathroom.

2025-03-25 16:35:42

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But aren't you a leftist tech bro?

2025-03-25 16:15:54

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Agreed.

2025-03-25 16:08:47

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Before someone tells me "the apps have terrible UX and that's why there are no users" put your hand in your heart and tell me sincerely that you think Zapstore has worse UX than Obtainium, now go look at how many people are using and talking about Obtainium and compare that to Zapstore.
What is the reason?

2025-03-25 15:59:42

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I don't know if I agree with this "solving their problems" mentality. This is not a SaaS startup, this is a system with network effect. Without having tons of other users we cannot solve anyone's problems.
If we were to apply that approach, though, we could perhaps start with apps that are still useful even if a single user is using them alone, such as a system for writing and publishing personal articles and blogs that people would otherwise use Wordpress or something like that for -- or tools for creating annotations, highlights, web bookmarking, keeping track of things -- but these are all hard to compete because literally anyone else can offer such apps, and if they make these apps do things anything that Nostr is not good at we're screwed. One app that is doing this very well is Zapstore, actually, which is the best app for installing open-source Android apps that exist, apparently because no one else had the idea of trying to to compete against Obtainium and F-Droid or no one was as competent, so we got that.
After that we can go for things that are useful for small groups, which is the entire "communities" talk. I agree with it, but I find it very unspecified. What the hell is a community? Even after listening to hours of TGFN podcast I still have no idea. I know I have been part of things I have considered communities, but when I say some people talking about "community for sports fans" I get the impression that they have no idea of what they're talking about. Anyway, this can also work, but here we're competing against Telegram, Signal, Discord and whatnot, and again we're screwed.
I say we're screwed but I don't really believe we are, because we have one thing that none of the competitors have, which is the promise of a global decentralized social network (and a million other things that come with that). This ideal is sometimes deemphasized because "users don't care about it" and "we have to just make better software", but I don't agree with that. Competing with just software isn't enough. I'm not sure people realize, but for every many well-designed high-quality apps that are launched only very few enjoy actual success, and one way to prevent Nostr apps from being just another failure is to appeal to people who empathize with the Nostr idealistic vision, even if many parts of that vision are not in place yet (we most notably lack the "social" part since there are no users).

2025-03-25 14:38:57

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@npub1zaf…26k5 has wanted something like that for years and I always tell him it's an impossible task.

2025-03-25 10:29:28

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https://chachi.chat
https://flotilla.social

2025-03-25 01:31:21

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I feel the same. I think we've all finally realized Nostr sucks and no one is coming, really.
We built all this giant piece of something that turns out no one really understands or cares, not even most Nostr developers.

2025-03-25 01:27:57

What prevents LLM data from being poisoned by sheer quantity of garbage?
If they're crawling the internet for data to be fed into the LLMs doesn't that mean that data that appears _more_ will have more importance, instead of data that is "better"?
In other words, what is the "pagerank" of LLMs?

2025-03-24 18:59:43

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https://nadar.tigerville.no/

2025-03-24 18:48:39

"Anyone can run it" (as long as they have 4 million dollars).
#nevent1q…9kv9

2025-03-19 22:28:54

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NostrReport was too frequent, and talked too much about what people were doing and saying on Nostr. We need a thing that is just about the technology and open possibilities, another, completely unrelated, about the gossip and stuff like that.

2025-03-19 16:55:21

@npub1utx…50e8 I tried to upload a 2.4GB file to https://aegis.utxo.one/ but the downloaded died in the middle, please fix, thank you.

2025-03-19 14:50:04

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This is the worst answer because people will stop running this database if it gets filled with garbage since they're not being paid to run it at all.

2025-03-19 14:08:18

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I ask for a service where people can throw money and the thing will be stored, you suggest me that people buy desktop computers, store all the things on their hard disks, tweak their router firewalls and leave their computers online all day to seed the content?

2025-03-19 14:04:53

Is there a service somewhere on the internet for pooling funds for storage?
Suppose I have this huge amount of valuable digital material that a group of people may be interested in preserving (for example, backups of the TGFN podcast episodes). I could try to save that myself on some storage provider and then make it available for interested parties, but that is too cumbersome and the cost will all be on me and eventually I will lose everything.
But at the same time there may be dozens, even hundreds of people that would also want to help pay for that and more people would join the pool going forward, they could all just contribute and keep the thing alive forever.
There should be a service that abstracted over storage providers and provided an interface for this. Is there such a thing already?

2025-03-19 13:52:51

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Before bringing millions of users we have to bring the small group of nerds and enthusiasts that would naturally be interested in what we're doing just so they can help build it.

2025-03-19 13:49:57

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The same NIP-29 group can be forked into multiple relays and each go through a completely different direction.

2025-03-19 12:31:39

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What did you do with Pablo?

2025-03-18 23:20:55

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Someone can listen to the podcast and digest the information. But I'm pretty sure every builder is very eager to share all possible information if asked questions here in public.

2025-03-18 19:36:50

Outside our little group here no one knows and no one has any chance to know all the things being created on Nostr, and I'm sure there are many folks that would be very interested if they knew.
We need more people writing about specific Nostr initiatives, such as the groups subprotocol, the git subprotocol, the community relays, the bunkers, the decentralized app store, the multisig signers, the highlighting, the photo sharing, the very private secure messaging subprotocols, the outbox model, the bluetooth offline inter-device protocol, the decentralized wiki and other stuff.
If you know how to write 3 words without asking an AI to generate text for you please do it.

2025-03-15 11:26:10

You can now use nak fs to publish random notes and also to edit carefully-thought articles.
#nevent1q…dktk

2025-03-15 03:39:51

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nak fs --sec 'bunker://...' /mnt
cd /mnt/@me/notes
echo 'goodbye stranger' > new
cd /mnt/@me/articles
mkdir whatever
cd whatever
vim content.md # write a very thoughtful article
vim title # write a very thoughtful title
touch publish

2025-03-15 02:15:57

A person who reads is a reader.
A person who drinks is a drinker.
A person who walks is a walker.
What is a person who pees?

2025-03-14 23:16:27

OK, let's try this: https://23gmt.nostr.technology/
A relay that only accepts kind:1 root notes only between 23GMT and 24GMT (also known as: right now) every day and deletes everything one hour after closing every day.
Also only "protected" notes are accepted so they don't leak.

2025-03-14 04:02:53

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It affects NIP-07 as much as installing a virus affects anything.
This is another example why "app stores" are retarded. Either they are curated lists of trusted apps according to whatever trusted person or they accept anything but then you shouldn't be browsing them looking for cool extensions because everything must be assumed to be a virus.
@npub10r8…t2p8 should be fixing this by letting anyone publish an app uncensorably using any relay while simultaneously providing users with relay-based curated browsing experiences.

2025-03-13 20:14:58

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Parsing on input keeps the network sane and helps everybody. You do it or not do it, it's your client's decision, self-contained and virtuous.
Parsing on on display is Postel's law and trying to fix people's mess while incentivizing them to do more and more mess until you can't fix it all. If you do it you create work for everybody else and protocol bloat.

2025-03-13 19:25:03

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What clients could do is recognize these URLs at the time they're typed/pasted and prepend the "nostr:" prefix instead of forcing everybody to recognize them at render time.
Even the big platforms do it with URLs when you type just the domain name: they prepend the "https://" prefix (Twitter would famously add an "http://" prefix until recently and that would break some websites that didn't have an autoredirect).
It's common knowledge that we should try to put most of the work on the write flow, because it happens only once, while the read flow happens dozens, thousands, millions of times. That's what most scalable software end up doing.

2025-03-13 19:22:06

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Please @npub16c0…6nvr, you know as well as I do that this is a slippery slope.

2025-03-13 01:30:07

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Wow, I didn't know this. Good to learn about this arcane knowledge here.
It is still kinda bad in the multisig bunker case because the coordinator can decrypt your messages, but better than nothing? I'll try to implement it.

2025-03-11 13:52:56

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But strfry and khatru support both of these out of the box.
Well, strfry for now just rejects protected events, but https://github.com/hoytech/strfry/pull/137 introduces asking for AUTH and then accepting them.

2025-03-10 22:05:44

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I'm already tired of it myself.

2025-03-10 20:48:08

Since no one asked we've finally delivered: a full-blown FUSE filesystem for all Nostr events and metadata.
nak fs /mnt
cd /mnt/hodlbod@coracle.social
I was going to make a shiny video of this but the result was too bad, so please someone make one and post it here.
In the meantime I have these amazing screenshots of the most beautiful file explorer I could find on my computer:
https://aegis.utxo.one/b163939e99ad206b2523790fd985a3a2f024edfb75d32745f11809b96ce63800.png
https://cdn.azzamo.net/5015c1ddd259c6b1f44b57c59cc126e7b1176f22ef7043ebf17463ff4a50597d.png
https://cdn.azzamo.net/a6e08f782a735aa57579c39ae49305cc5a28b75fbc6ec49637ad49d1e39139f8.png

2025-03-09 01:57:03

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I like Lana del Rey.

2025-03-09 01:42:07

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There are no new users, Derek. It's all bots.

2025-03-08 21:13:46

The correct framing here is not that Nostr has evil content, but that _some relays_ do.
These relays are not Nostr, Nostr is only the language your client uses to download the content from the relay, and your device only downloads what it asks for and from the servers it chooses to.
#nevent1q…58pj

2025-03-08 19:45:23

So apparently X only allows edits to the text of root posts, not replies, not media, not private posts.
And it only allows edits for one hour after the post is sent, and only up to 5 edits total.
https://help.x.com/en/using-x/edit-tweet
I think X must have zero users now because they insist in not implementing full-blown unrestricted capabilities for such a crucial unnegotiable feature.

2025-03-06 22:45:34

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It's also possible to do this with Musig2. I believe it is even simpler, each signer just needs to generate an nsec and they don't even have to do any dances to generate the combined npub, it's stateless and deterministic (they do have to do a dance potentially with the help of a coordinator for creating a signature), but it can't be m-of-n, has to be m-of-m.
#nevent1q…ev0h

2025-03-06 22:45:28

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This is true for https://git.fiatjaf.com/promenade, but there is a way to generate an nsec in a distributed manner such that no one ever sees it (well, the signers can collude and recreate it). Search for Frost DKG (Distributed Key Generation) and there is a bunch of material and discussion I didn't read myself.

2025-03-05 10:32:19

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I defer to this post I wrote in 2015 about CouchDB: #naddr1qq…67ph
But I don't think CouchDB is good for anything anymore since they got rid of the concept of couchapps instead of fixing it, then turned it into a boring and slow MongoDB copy.

2025-03-02 21:52:52

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It's hard.

2025-03-01 20:55:45

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Why fork it? Why? What are you going to change in it?

2025-03-01 20:53:10

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And people thought 2 or 3 hours were a lot. I'm already imagining 8-hour podcasts becoming the new trend.

2025-02-27 21:55:43

In what circumstance should I be getting a SIGBUS? https://github.com/PowerDNS/lmdb-go/issues/40

2025-02-25 18:49:09

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What do you mean by finally? It's been an almost an year or more.