Kenneth Finnegan on Nostr: Just to recap the latest in the #Redhat RHEL vs downstreams not offering them any ...
Just to recap the latest in the #Redhat RHEL vs downstreams not offering them any value drama:
Redhat publically states that downstream rebuilders offer them no value, and the RHEL community should all be working in the Centos-stream sandbox, because that's where the community is, because it has community right there in the name, and that's where the code fixes can land, and community is only about lines of code in the repo.
npub1hkwjren6h669r2renmd986nr276s76nw3ryh0jtst9yfrg7rgvusywjkge (npub1hkw…jkge) goes "alright, no value in us being a 1:1 rebuild of RHEL, then we're cutting our own path while being based on Centos-stream, staying ABI compatible with RHEL, but we'll fix our own bugs when we find them"
Alma Linux then finds a CVE in the iperf3 server impacting everyone in the Enterprise Linux 9 ecosystem, so they release the fix for AlmaLinux, and then immediately open pull requests for Fedora and Centos-stream to land the fix upstream. Which would seem to be exactly what Redhat was asking for this whole time.
Redhat's response to the centos-stream pull request? "There is no current customer demand for this fix in RHEL, so we're not interested in this fix"
The astute will notice that the pull request is feeding into centos-stream, and not RHEL. But they're making merge decisions here based on immediate customer demand in RHEL.
So maybe this whole "Centos-stream is the community distro" line was bullshit and it really is just the beta testing ground for RHEL, just like all of us kind of thought it was while getting shouted down by the centos-stream advocates this whole time.
So Redhat is still doing great.
https://gitlab.com/redhat/centos-stream/rpms/iperf3/-/merge_requests/5 
Published at
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