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2025-04-04 07:01:17
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🐘🐘 Humpleupagus 🐘🐘 on Nostr: > What is the difference between consciousness and the imitation of consciousness? ...

> What is the difference between consciousness and the imitation of consciousness?

For Turing, probably nothing.

Personally, I think the difference is phenomenal experience, and I'm not saying that takes much, though it's quite possible that all things have some type of phenomenal experience. So by consciousness, I probably mean, in context, one akin to human consciousness, which is really the kind of thing you have to experience yourself.

I one had a decent linguistics professor who told me "to know the name is to forget the thing." This has always stuck with me. A duck is a duck, and not the definition of a duck, nor is it the sound duck.

Forgive me, I'm really not trying to be nebulous, but I think you can see the difficulty is using but one part of the phenomena, language, to capture the whole. Logos is really the type of thing that impresses itself upon you from outside, and thus, can only be shown by pointing and grunting and hoping it impresses itself upon the other. Trying to weave the web from the objects of memory may cause one to fail to continue to look outside. Language is just a tool, as is reason. Both can be helpful, but they can also be poisonous. Plato's pharmakon.
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