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Original date posted:2016-08-09
š Original message:I have updated the GitHub a lot (changed tones to be less chirpy, fixed
some smalls) and made a couple of samples (see attachment for MP3 and FLAC
of both tone tables, first 16 then 4). Is this good enough to warrant an
official BIP number? I haven't built a decoder yet, but it seems like the
encoder is working properly (looked at Audacity, seems like it is working),
and some people on reddit want to "allow for decoding experiments"
<https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/4wsn7v/bip_proposal_addresses_over_audio_thoughts/d69m3st>;
What suggestions do you all have for it?
On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 8:50 PM, Daniel Hoffman <danielhoffman699 at gmail.com>
wrote:
> It wouldn't be feasible in the vast majority of cases, but I can't think
> of a reason why it can't be built into the standard.
>
> On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 5:59 PM, Trevin Hofmann via bitcoin-dev <
> bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>
>> Would it be feasible to transmit an entire BIP21 URI as audio? If you
>> were to encode any extra information (such as amount), it would be useful
>> to include a checksum for the entire message. This checksum could possibly
>> be used instead of the checksum in the address.
>>
>> Trevin
>>
>> On Aug 8, 2016 3:06 PM, "Justin Newton via bitcoin-dev" <
>> bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Daniel,
>>> Thanks for proposing this. I think this could have some useful use
>>> cases as you state. I was wondering what you would think to adding some
>>> additional tones to optionally denote an amount (in satoshis?).
>>>
>>> (FYI, actual link is here: https://github.com/Dako300/BIP )
>>>
>>> Justin
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 2:22 PM, Daniel Hoffman via bitcoin-dev <
>>> bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> This is my BIP idea: a fast, robust, and standardized for representing
>>>> Bitcoin addresses over audio. It takes the binary representation of the
>>>> Bitcoin address (little endian), chops that up into 4 or 2 bit chunks
>>>> (depending on type, 2 bit only for low quality audio like american
>>>> telephone lines), and generates a tone based upon that value. This started
>>>> because I wanted an easy way to donate to podcasts that I listen to, and
>>>> having a Shazam-esque app (or a media player with this capability) that
>>>> gives me an address automatically would be wonderful for both the consumer
>>>> and producer. Comes with error correction built into the protocol
>>>>
>>>> You can see the full specification of the BIP on my GitHub page (
>>>> https://github.com/Dako300/BIP-0153).
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> bitcoin-dev mailing list
>>>> bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org
>>>> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Justin W. Newton
>>> Founder/CEO
>>> Netki, Inc.
>>>
>>> justin at netki.com
>>> +1.818.261.4248
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org
>>> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev
>>>
>>>
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Original date posted:2016-08-09\nš Original message:I have updated the GitHub a lot (changed tones to be less chirpy, fixed\nsome smalls) and made a couple of samples (see attachment for MP3 and FLAC\nof both tone tables, first 16 then 4). Is this good enough to warrant an\nofficial BIP number? I haven't built a decoder yet, but it seems like the\nencoder is working properly (looked at Audacity, seems like it is working),\nand some people on reddit want to \"allow for decoding experiments\"\n\u003chttps://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/4wsn7v/bip_proposal_addresses_over_audio_thoughts/d69m3st\u003e\n\nWhat suggestions do you all have for it?\n\nOn Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 8:50 PM, Daniel Hoffman \u003cdanielhoffman699 at gmail.com\u003e\nwrote:\n\n\u003e It wouldn't be feasible in the vast majority of cases, but I can't think\n\u003e of a reason why it can't be built into the standard.\n\u003e\n\u003e On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 5:59 PM, Trevin Hofmann via bitcoin-dev \u003c\n\u003e bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org\u003e wrote:\n\u003e\n\u003e\u003e Would it be feasible to transmit an entire BIP21 URI as audio? If you\n\u003e\u003e were to encode any extra information (such as amount), it would be useful\n\u003e\u003e to include a checksum for the entire message. This checksum could possibly\n\u003e\u003e be used instead of the checksum in the address.\n\u003e\u003e\n\u003e\u003e Trevin\n\u003e\u003e\n\u003e\u003e On Aug 8, 2016 3:06 PM, \"Justin Newton via bitcoin-dev\" \u003c\n\u003e\u003e bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org\u003e wrote:\n\u003e\u003e\n\u003e\u003e\u003e Daniel,\n\u003e\u003e\u003e Thanks for proposing this. I think this could have some useful use\n\u003e\u003e\u003e cases as you state. 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Comes with error correction built into the protocol\n\u003e\u003e\u003e\u003e\n\u003e\u003e\u003e\u003e You can see the full specification of the BIP on my GitHub page (\n\u003e\u003e\u003e\u003e https://github.com/Dako300/BIP-0153).\n\u003e\u003e\u003e\u003e\n\u003e\u003e\u003e\u003e _______________________________________________\n\u003e\u003e\u003e\u003e bitcoin-dev mailing list\n\u003e\u003e\u003e\u003e bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org\n\u003e\u003e\u003e\u003e https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev\n\u003e\u003e\u003e\u003e\n\u003e\u003e\u003e\u003e\n\u003e\u003e\u003e\n\u003e\u003e\u003e\n\u003e\u003e\u003e --\n\u003e\u003e\u003e\n\u003e\u003e\u003e Justin W. 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