Outwit Playlist on Nostr: The definitions of violence greatly vary and I am skeptical of some of the modern ...
The definitions of violence greatly vary and I am skeptical of some of the modern interpretations regarding verbal violence. When I use the term violence I mean the good old forcing someone to do something against their will with the use of physical power (or the imminent thread of such).
And the term education in the positive interpretation of lifelong learning is also nice and stuff, but that's not what I mean when I talk about education. By education I mean the individual and institutionalized process of forcing children to learn things they have no internal motivation to learn.
The internal, self motivated part of education does not require force, but educational institutions generally exist to prohibit this intrinsic desire to learn. And that is what I think violence is essential for: Everybody wants to learn. That is intrinsic. Natural human contrition. But if you want to make someone learn the thing that you want them to learn rather than the thing they themselves want to learn you need to force them by violence. And that is what education is, at it's core.
That's not necessarily bad. E.g. you NEED to teach children to cross roads safely and it is of course absolutely justified to use (proportional) violence to teach them that. Some people pretend they would to education without violence (actually I was brought up by those kind of people) and I see a great danger in that, as they do of course still use violence, they just put more effort into abstracting that violence, pretend it doesn't exist and take the short rout of justifying this violence by simply denying it. Which, in my humble opinion, is actually worse than openly using it.
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