I think every relay should protect itself, thus require a payment, even for reads. Having a trusted token issuer is just a return to what we had before nostr, IMO.
How clients make this user-friendly is another problem - jb55 (npub1xts…kk5s) already talks about adding a custodial wallet to Damus for tips, so streaming some portion of those sats to relays seems doable. On the web, getAlby with pre-set budget could in theory achieve roughly the same seamless experience.
Also we could start with per-relay monthly subscriptions - your client checks your relay list, requests monthly subs invoices from each relay, confirms with the user, pays, and uses the tokens issued by each relay in return for the payment.
What do you think?
brugeman
npub1xd…mntxy
2023-01-09 17:21:55
in reply to nevent1q…fync
Author Public Key
npub1xdtducdnjerex88gkg2qk2atsdlqsyxqaag4h05jmcpyspqt30wscmntxySeen on
wss://relay.noswhere.comPublished at
2023-01-09 17:21:55Event JSON
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