twofish on Nostr: <jurov> mircea_popescu , is there any place for mpex chinese/pakistani users to ...
<jurov> mircea_popescu , is there any place for mpex chinese/pakistani users to inquiry about the outage?
<mircea_popescu> jurov here basically.
<jurov> one dude came and seemd completely out of his mind
<mircea_popescu> have him join the chan it can be explained to him.
<deadweasel> which one?
<deadweasel> Rick___?
<jurov> yes. he's gone now.
<mircea_popescu> awww that poor dude was sending me crazed messages too.
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<mircea_popescu> but to sum up the situation, cause i imagine many people are curious :
<mircea_popescu> mpex consists of a trade server and webservers which the users talk to.
<mircea_popescu> if you look at it practically these webservers are practically proxies.
<mircea_popescu> there is five of them sharing two gigabit uplinks through a balancer.
<mircea_popescu> the first time mpex was ddosed in january the attack took out the actual datacenter top level router.
<mircea_popescu> there were two more layers of routing to get to the router that handled the webservers.
<mircea_popescu> now, the reason admittedly was that the thing was a little old and kidna loaded. but still.
<mircea_popescu> so at that time i split the tubes up north/east, and started a bunch of proxies
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<mircea_popescu> jurov was hosting one, for instance.
<mircea_popescu> since the attack started yesterday a total of 100+ of these were taken offline.
<mircea_popescu> granted, it's not easy to blow up a small shared setup like that.
<mircea_popescu> but somebody did have the determination to spend a day and a half looking for them, setting up the ddosing for them individually bla bla.
<mircea_popescu> the thing with that system is that it works by division. if there's 100 of them there jurov can stay online.
<mircea_popescu> if there's 9 left the remainder ddos is available to hit him
<mircea_popescu> i could allow anyone to start a proxy right now, the trade server is fine, etc. the problem is
<mircea_popescu> you'd be nuked in half an hour or something, and it's just hassle.
<imsaguy> mmm, shake n bake
<mircea_popescu> right.
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<mircea_popescu> now, a humongo 10gb dedicated solution is being set up as we speak
<mircea_popescu> i had this sort-of prepared, but not actually provisioned and ready because the shit is expensive
<imsaguy> so you're having more babies to win the war?
<mircea_popescu> basically.
<Diablo-D3> heh
<mircea_popescu> imsaguy the alternative is handle mpex trades by email.
<Diablo-D3> email, the original next generation mail queue
<mircea_popescu> yep.
<imsaguy> how about mpex trades via telnet?
<imsaguy> :D
<mircea_popescu> to what ip ?
<mircea_popescu> see, mail is diffuse.
<imsaguy> 127.0.0.1
<mircea_popescu> lol
<Diablo-D3> I wonder if that makes uunet the original original message queue
<mircea_popescu> Diablo-D3 prolly.
<imsaguy> how about mpex over irc?
<Diablo-D3> fuck we need uunet back
<Diablo-D3> that shit was baus
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<imsaguy> let freenode get ddos
<imsaguy> I hear they like that
<mircea_popescu> imsaguy the problem is irc doesn't handle pgp so well
<imsaguy> yes it does
<imsaguy> ask gribble
<mircea_popescu> (and i don't think they have enough to cope, but maybe)
<Diablo-D3> I could name a box "chicks" and name a user "i"
<imsaguy> :)
<Diablo-D3> and it'd be funny
<imsaguy> people pastebin the pgp
<imsaguy> feed the bot the raw url
<imsaguy> simple as pie
<mircea_popescu> imsaguy yeah. last i talked to nanotube he was like "i don't want this in production handling opm"
<imsaguy> I'm not saying graft onto gribble
<imsaguy> I'm saying clone
<imsaguy> steal the concept
<mircea_popescu> dawg...
<mircea_popescu> fuck you srsly.
<mircea_popescu> why didn't i think opf that
<imsaguy> dee oh gee
<mircea_popescu> people can just paste a pastebin link or w/e
<Diablo-D3> oh em gee
<imsaguy> derp
<mircea_popescu> lol
<imsaguy> and then the bot filters anything not formed as url
<imsaguy> thats the first line
<mircea_popescu> imsaguy wanna code an irc proxy for me ?
<imsaguy> second line is it only parses text
<Diablo-D3> mircea_popescu: dude, just use perl
<mircea_popescu> all you have to do is take urls from people and feed them into server as pgp strings
<imsaguy> no, just fork gribble
<mircea_popescu> so fork gribble, i dun care.
<imsaguy> the code for reading pastebin to gpg
<imsaguy> its already written
<mircea_popescu> im trying to hire you over here ;/
<imsaguy> what's it pay?
<imsaguy> gypsie man
<mircea_popescu> pm.
<jurov> waitwhat? ppl will publish urls to encrypted orders on irc to be picked up by mpoe bot?
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<mircea_popescu> jurov yup
<mircea_popescu> i like this chan, srsly.
<mircea_popescu> ppl are facepalming left and right around me
<imsaguy> working on it now
<jurov> lol you should accept clearsigned orders, too, then.
<jurov> unencrypted
<jurov> moar phun
<mircea_popescu> nah.
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"content": "\u003cjurov\u003e mircea_popescu , is there any place for mpex chinese/pakistani users to inquiry about the outage?\n\u003cmircea_popescu\u003e jurov here basically.\n\u003cjurov\u003e one dude came and seemd completely out of his mind\n\u003cmircea_popescu\u003e have him join the chan it can be explained to him.\n\u003cdeadweasel\u003e which one?\n\u003cdeadweasel\u003e Rick___?\n\u003cjurov\u003e yes. he's gone now.\n\u003cmircea_popescu\u003e awww that poor dude was sending me crazed messages too.\n. fishfish|AFK has quit (Quit: Zzzzz..zzzzz)\n\u003cmircea_popescu\u003e but to sum up the situation, cause i imagine many people are curious : \n\u003cmircea_popescu\u003e mpex consists of a trade server and webservers which the users talk to.\n\u003cmircea_popescu\u003e if you look at it practically these webservers are practically proxies.\n\u003cmircea_popescu\u003e there is five of them sharing two gigabit uplinks through a balancer.\n\u003cmircea_popescu\u003e the first time mpex was ddosed in january the attack took out the actual datacenter top level router.\n\u003cmircea_popescu\u003e there were two more layers of routing to get to the router that handled the webservers.\n\u003cmircea_popescu\u003e now, the reason admittedly was that the thing was a little old and kidna loaded. but still.\n\u003cmircea_popescu\u003e so at that time i split the tubes up north/east, and started a bunch of proxies\n. detro (~detro@165.212.186.27) has joined .bitcoin-assets\n\u003cmircea_popescu\u003e jurov was hosting one, for instance.\n\u003cmircea_popescu\u003e since the attack started yesterday a total of 100+ of these were taken offline.\n\u003cmircea_popescu\u003e granted, it's not easy to blow up a small shared setup like that.\n\u003cmircea_popescu\u003e but somebody did have the determination to spend a day and a half looking for them, setting up the ddosing for them individually bla bla.\n\u003cmircea_popescu\u003e the thing with that system is that it works by division. if there's 100 of them there jurov can stay online.\n\u003cmircea_popescu\u003e if there's 9 left the remainder ddos is available to hit him\n\u003cmircea_popescu\u003e i could allow anyone to start a proxy right now, the trade server is fine, etc. the problem is\n\u003cmircea_popescu\u003e you'd be nuked in half an hour or something, and it's just hassle.\n\u003cimsaguy\u003e mmm, shake n bake\n\u003cmircea_popescu\u003e right.\n. sgornick (~steve@unaffiliated/sgornick) has joined .bitcoin-assets\n\u003cmircea_popescu\u003e now, a humongo 10gb dedicated solution is being set up as we speak\n\u003cmircea_popescu\u003e i had this sort-of prepared, but not actually provisioned and ready because the shit is expensive\n\u003cimsaguy\u003e so you're having more babies to win the war?\n\u003cmircea_popescu\u003e basically.\n\u003cDiablo-D3\u003e heh\n\u003cmircea_popescu\u003e imsaguy the alternative is handle mpex trades by email.\n\u003cDiablo-D3\u003e email, the original next generation mail queue\n\u003cmircea_popescu\u003e yep.\n\u003cimsaguy\u003e how about mpex trades via telnet?\n\u003cimsaguy\u003e :D\n\u003cmircea_popescu\u003e to what ip ?\n\u003cmircea_popescu\u003e see, mail is diffuse.\n\u003cimsaguy\u003e 127.0.0.1\n\u003cmircea_popescu\u003e lol\n\u003cDiablo-D3\u003e I wonder if that makes uunet the original original message queue\n\u003cmircea_popescu\u003e Diablo-D3 prolly.\n\u003cimsaguy\u003e how about mpex over irc?\n\u003cDiablo-D3\u003e fuck we need uunet back\n\u003cDiablo-D3\u003e that shit was baus\n. toffoo (~tof@177.192.120.72) has joined .bitcoin-assets\n\u003cimsaguy\u003e let freenode get ddos\n\u003cimsaguy\u003e I hear they like that\n\u003cmircea_popescu\u003e imsaguy the problem is irc doesn't handle pgp so well\n\u003cimsaguy\u003e yes it does\n\u003cimsaguy\u003e ask gribble\n\u003cmircea_popescu\u003e (and i don't think they have enough to cope, but maybe)\n\u003cDiablo-D3\u003e I could name a box \"chicks\" and name a user \"i\"\n\u003cimsaguy\u003e :)\n\u003cDiablo-D3\u003e and it'd be funny\n\u003cimsaguy\u003e people pastebin the pgp\n\u003cimsaguy\u003e feed the bot the raw url\n\u003cimsaguy\u003e simple as pie\n\u003cmircea_popescu\u003e imsaguy yeah. last i talked to nanotube he was like \"i don't want this in production handling opm\"\n\u003cimsaguy\u003e I'm not saying graft onto gribble\n\u003cimsaguy\u003e I'm saying clone\n\u003cimsaguy\u003e steal the concept\n\u003cmircea_popescu\u003e dawg...\n\u003cmircea_popescu\u003e fuck you srsly.\n\u003cmircea_popescu\u003e why didn't i think opf that\n\u003cimsaguy\u003e dee oh gee\n\u003cmircea_popescu\u003e people can just paste a pastebin link or w/e\n\u003cDiablo-D3\u003e oh em gee\n\u003cimsaguy\u003e derp\n\u003cmircea_popescu\u003e lol\n\u003cimsaguy\u003e and then the bot filters anything not formed as url\n\u003cimsaguy\u003e thats the first line\n\u003cmircea_popescu\u003e imsaguy wanna code an irc proxy for me ?\n\u003cimsaguy\u003e second line is it only parses text\n\u003cDiablo-D3\u003e mircea_popescu: dude, just use perl\n\u003cmircea_popescu\u003e all you have to do is take urls from people and feed them into server as pgp strings\n\u003cimsaguy\u003e no, just fork gribble\n\u003cmircea_popescu\u003e so fork gribble, i dun care.\n\u003cimsaguy\u003e the code for reading pastebin to gpg\n\u003cimsaguy\u003e its already written\n\u003cmircea_popescu\u003e im trying to hire you over here ;/\n\u003cimsaguy\u003e what's it pay?\n\u003cimsaguy\u003e gypsie man\n\u003cmircea_popescu\u003e pm.\n\u003cjurov\u003e waitwhat? ppl will publish urls to encrypted orders on irc to be picked up by mpoe bot?\n. 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