npub1yyx7sllvsrr0fauh2rdlqk5rakf3963g9xk4a7j5uhfcs00lr3kq42qa5g (npub1yyx…qa5g) Those of us in the Linux demi-monde at the time saw exactly what they were doing, and were pretty cynical about Darwin's future. There were projects to try and keep Darwin alive and separately-useful from OSX, but it was clear the main goal was to take from outside contributors while ensuring internal Apple changes were useless to them.
It was a pattern we'd seen before with all of the Unix companies of the 80s/90s, and was a reason we were pretty tired of moralising arguments against the GPL from the BSD folks. Embrace and Extend was not something Microsoft invented, but something we'd lived through many times over.
So whatever your feelings about the goals or mechanisms of the GPL, it has a simple effect: to ensure that the commons of shared work you produce will remain a commons. And that's one reason wealth-extraction organisations such as corporations don't like it. They want to contribute useful things to the public right up until it ceases to bring them profit or PR.
I think we lost a lot by letting ethically questionable people like RMS and ESR set the moral agenda around how we discussed these topics back then.
Space Hobo /
npub1da…lwuks
2023-08-04 09:06:43
in reply to nevent1q…23qg
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