Agreed, and it's a good example because it would essentially unusable if someone didn't do that.
The flaw is not that the filters exist, that flaw is that Google (MS, Facebook, Twitter, etc) can do that single-handedly.
Eventually, nostr will die or will have something equivalent.
That something equivalent either has to be something built into the protocol (which re-centralizes control over it, bad), something the relays do (better, and somewhat inevitable, but will end the same place as email if its the only thing), or something the users control (this is ideal.)
>From: (unclebobmartin) at 08/15/22 07:51:40 on wss://relay.damus.io
>---------------
>While technically SMTP is still peer-peer and open; almost nobody uses it that way anymore. Email providers, like Google, have pretty much locked up all the email traffic and could exert considerable influence over it, including censorship.
>
>>From: TrentonZero at 08/14/22 21:42:02 on wss://nostr-pub.wellorder.net
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>>I meant to say here "[Email is the only protocol] that is used at substantial scale."
>>
>>>From: TrentonZero at 08/14/22 21:34:41 on wss://nostr-pub.wellorder.net
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>>> Email is the only protocol that works kinda sorta a little like nostr, in that everything is decentralized and anybody can send to anybody.
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