Aspie96 on Nostr: > There is not a single jurisdiction without at least ANY restriction => EVERY ...
> There is not a single jurisdiction without at least ANY restriction => EVERY operator MUST scan for illegal content unless they are uncatchable Joe.
No, it's a non sequitor, it depends on the law.
The fact that some content is illegal does not necessarily mean that the relay operator is liable, surely not for all illegal content.
You seem to believe that if willingly publishing something is illegal, then a hosting platform, to which relays are similar in practice, has the legal obligation to scan against it and is liable if it doesn't.
This is not generally the case. It depends.
> Also, relays MUST be for profit (if we are not talking about nostr in its today form no one uses just like right now) - because one has to pay for hosting and operation.
Bullshit.
Plenty of websites, which also have to pay for hosting, are run by non-profits.
This isn't a disputable matter of opinion, it's an objective matter of fact, there are *many* non-profit organizations running websites, often hosting them on their own servers, some of which are very large and have many users.
You seem to be under the impression that non-profits can't deal with money.
This is obviously not true. Many non-profit organizations handle money, sometimes massive amounts of money. That doesn't make them "for profit", because profit isn't their goal, or even part of their goals and money, to them, if they are run honestly, is nothing but, merely, a tool like any other, which they spend towards what actually fundamentally matters: the mission of the organization.
We already have several non-profits which operate in the software world, several non-profits which run widely used web services, several non-profits which have freedom of speech as an important part of their stated mission, all of which do what they do with no need to turn into "for profits".
Published at
2024-10-19 17:42:24Event JSON
{
"id": "50887d0ae478c16e816256c1e18a97712585fe00d60aca0d488b2fd60effc9f4",
"pubkey": "8ee4290c98b20b2999138b322f466ea20c75608f568ab53cf11492bf9b2e849c",
"created_at": 1729359744,
"kind": 1,
"tags": [
[
"e",
"9fd70f1e4870a19bf19736178b2f6e6168ce19fff1310f2aa05ec666fd03f3b6",
"",
"reply",
"8a699686811889186df398c7253e8c4417ce73fe814edeae7ecd81dbde9536ac"
],
[
"e",
"7b7d9d82df84c71e0bf709dfcb7c5cb850912fd0b99ddf625e9ca53b9987b93e",
"",
"root",
"8ee4290c98b20b2999138b322f466ea20c75608f568ab53cf11492bf9b2e849c"
],
[
"p",
"8a699686811889186df398c7253e8c4417ce73fe814edeae7ecd81dbde9536ac"
],
[
"p",
"3bf0c63fcb93463407af97a5e5ee64fa883d107ef9e558472c4eb9aaaefa459d"
]
],
"content": "\u003e There is not a single jurisdiction without at least ANY restriction =\u003e EVERY operator MUST scan for illegal content unless they are uncatchable Joe.\n\nNo, it's a non sequitor, it depends on the law.\nThe fact that some content is illegal does not necessarily mean that the relay operator is liable, surely not for all illegal content.\n\nYou seem to believe that if willingly publishing something is illegal, then a hosting platform, to which relays are similar in practice, has the legal obligation to scan against it and is liable if it doesn't.\nThis is not generally the case. It depends.\n\n\u003e Also, relays MUST be for profit (if we are not talking about nostr in its today form no one uses just like right now) - because one has to pay for hosting and operation.\n\nBullshit.\nPlenty of websites, which also have to pay for hosting, are run by non-profits.\nThis isn't a disputable matter of opinion, it's an objective matter of fact, there are *many* non-profit organizations running websites, often hosting them on their own servers, some of which are very large and have many users.\n\nYou seem to be under the impression that non-profits can't deal with money.\nThis is obviously not true. Many non-profit organizations handle money, sometimes massive amounts of money. That doesn't make them \"for profit\", because profit isn't their goal, or even part of their goals and money, to them, if they are run honestly, is nothing but, merely, a tool like any other, which they spend towards what actually fundamentally matters: the mission of the organization.\n\nWe already have several non-profits which operate in the software world, several non-profits which run widely used web services, several non-profits which have freedom of speech as an important part of their stated mission, all of which do what they do with no need to turn into \"for profits\".",
"sig": "5558b741611536267765eae6bcfcb10dd01c612307be4e2888a0ff6bb63b0d3d1530148112c91497ed56877eb9c2650506c47ca14ae014e3e9a09bc7b5aad1cb"
}