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"content": "honestly this argument is a copout and an incorrect representation of ‘growth’. The Western economies have actually been ‘growing’ mostly abstractly: think financial derivatives, etc. In real economic terms it has been deindustrialising for decades now. Real, tangible, economic growth has mostly been occurring in places like China and India. Africa is going to be a huge growth area (again, in real tangible terms like steel, concrete, fertilizer use, etc) for the rest of this century.\n\nPut like this, demands like ‘degrowth’ become absurd at best, and neocolonialism at worst. Who are we to say Africa has to remain dirt poor just because we in the West already used ip all the ‘carbon credit’ for the planet?\n\nNo, the point has always been how to ‘decouple’ economic (real) growth from impacts on the environment. How do we develop humanity sustainably? This starts with an abundance of energy, but also developing technologies to be sustainable in other areas, like agriculture which is currently using half the planet, for a large part to produce meat.\n\nDegrowth has never been an answer to this. Just a distraction.",
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