TrentonZero on Nostr: Totally should read Voegelin: basically, all the historicist ideologies are secular ...
Totally should read Voegelin: basically, all the historicist ideologies are secular forms of Gnostic Christianity (oversimplified: you are saved by the possession of esoteric knowledge.) Oversimplified, you can take it too far and end up sounding like a red-pilled version of woke, but it's a wonderful insight (as long as you take it with a dose of other insights.)
Wokeism as religion in other senses than that I personally have mixed feelings about. I'm a practicing Catholic, we have confession, but its different (for one, it's almost impossible to use it as a virtue signal: it is private.) Where I think the real key to "Wokeism is like religion" lies is that Woke scolds come off like a certain type of old religious lady.
I'm in Texas, so she's an old Baptist lady in my imagination, but they exist in every community. This is the lady that no one really agrees with, but everyone in the community agrees she is very "proper," and so if she sees you playing Magic the Gathering, or reading any fantasy book not written by CS Lewis, or, God help you, playing D&D, she can make your life hell.
Woke scolds remind me of *her!* It's not just that they are wrong. Hell, by definition, I think everyone who disagrees with me is wrong. It's that they have this very superficial, mostly appearances-based, vision of righteousness and they can and will punish you severly for straying from it.
>From: (zerosequioso) at 08/13/22 21:07:54 on wss://nostr-pub.wellorder.net
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>Very interesting points, I think in a lot of ways progressivism does seem like a type of religion (e.g., the "confessions" about privilege). It's just scary how many people have fallen into the trance so quickly.
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