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working on getalby.com - a browser extension with lightning and Nostr support

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2024-11-22 19:41:57

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yeah, understandable. 😟 but so nice!

2024-11-22 17:55:39

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So you care about the inner beauty and inner values?!

2024-11-22 13:39:19

This is how lightning nodes should look like!
#note1fwt…qkly

2024-11-17 15:16:51

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What did not work for you? feedback is helpful that we can improve it also for others.
Look for any NWC wallet and ask your favorite wallets to implement NWC.

2024-11-17 15:15:18

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Why is Alby Hub not in your point of view? Did you look at it?

2024-11-17 10:11:14

https://www.flockstr.com/event/naddr1qqyrvde5xdjryv34qgsyv47lazt9h6ycp2fsw270khje5egjgsrdkrupjg27u796g7f5k0srqsqqql9nmenu5v

2024-11-16 21:48:15

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yeah, they are awesome. and I love it. Years ago I travelled there only just to pay with Bitcoin.

2024-11-16 21:46:33

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yes, it’s sad, but we just can’t offer it on scale as we wish and I also think people should be in control and that this leads to better solutions long term.
we know some will not be happy, and trust me that’s hard for us.
We have also put a lot of work in the options in communities, and friends, and families share a hub for example.

2024-11-16 21:20:14

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It’s built around NWC and the idea on how to connect apps (like nostr clients) to the node and to make lightning integration possible.

2024-11-16 20:56:38

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If you want you can get a channel from the integrated LSPs, yes.
People use it as a easy channel opening alternative to thunderhub.

2024-11-16 20:17:30

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what do you want us to do?
They sure have a place. and it might be OK to rely on others.
We just think that the user should be in control and we just cannot offer it.
We’ve learned a lot over the time and the tech got so much better that this is now feasible. So we focus our resources on what is the best future.
and btw. I also think it’s a bit like Nostr and Mastodon and X.
On Nostr I personally think we should care about self-sovereignty.

2024-11-16 19:52:26

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last time they did not denominate in Bitcoin. (meaning set prices in bitcoin, not in fiat)
did that change?

2024-11-16 14:55:53

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So, should we denominate prices in Bitcoin or Fiat?

2024-11-16 13:54:49

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if purchasing power increases, so it’s natural that one gets more or for less, isn’t it?

2024-11-16 12:41:04

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So I am wondering how to get there.
We got some bad feedback because we did not manage to adjust amounts compared to fiat fast enough in the last run. (partly understandable)
but then the question for me becomes what is fast enough? if that's real time towards some fiat currency then we fully loose the bitcoin denomination.

2024-11-16 11:33:44

Do you believe in a bitcoin denominated circular economy?

2024-11-16 11:21:02

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Git is a distributed version control system. It is built specifically to NOT have a backend at all. (as opposed to SVN and others that had been popular before) All clones are equal.
It happened that people used GitHub services. Now people don't know Git and don't care about reading up on it.
Imo chances are high, that the same will happen with Nostr. If successful we will all use the same relay and will blame Nostr is not decentralized.

2024-11-16 07:12:41

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you will always be able to send them out.

2024-11-16 00:02:57

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you should not consider it a donation. if you have your backup you get that money out. I am sure somebody helps you here.

2024-11-16 00:02:09

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you do not own the inbound liquidity.
in your example you only own 121k. and those you can always send out if that’s in one channel.
in your example you can send in a max of 50k.
or what am I misunderstanding.

2024-11-15 22:55:49

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Esplora is a dependency of LDK. I think in the future bitcoin core will also be an option directly.
Regarding the DB: I think best is to use an ORM that abstracts it away and gives again options on how to run it. The queries should be simple and compatible.

2024-11-15 22:38:58

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Users have for sure the option to run it independently and without sharing data. For example you can easily run it without Alby account and also use the lightning address with limited permissions.
You can also configure your own relay, or block explorer.
We might not have a good overview and guide for that and people might need to find it from the github readme 😉

2024-11-15 21:19:18

that’s pretty cool.
accounting is a big blocker for adoption of bitcoin PoS. some great opportunity there. #note1339…v0la

2024-11-15 21:16:53

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there is no disagreement.
we provide a service, you don’t like it, go somewhere else. 🤷
sad, but no need to swear and you’re in no position to make any claims.

2024-11-15 20:44:40

What can we in Nostr learn from the recent surge in users for bluesky and mastodon?

2024-11-15 20:30:18

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yes, all stays as it is. Through the API you get all transactions as you expect it.
If you notice something please let us know.

2024-11-15 20:21:46

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They will not end up directly in your Alby Hub balance but they will be shown to you and you can "transfer" them anytime to your Hub with one click. (so no payment is missed, no matter what.)
https://m.primal.net/MXLo.png
https://m.primal.net/MXLs.png

2024-11-15 20:10:01

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yes, exactly.

2024-11-15 20:09:29

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no that all continues as is.
Old legacy accounts will just not be able to receive payments without a hub.

2024-11-15 19:59:59

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I assume you run it on your own... no you don't have to pay.
Als Alby Hub is FOSS.

2024-11-15 19:58:38

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The shared legacy node will be shut down and people should use the new Alby Hub. Alby Hub puts users in full control and is an easy to use, self-custodial lighting node.
On the Alby Extension etc. nothing changes.

2024-11-15 19:56:32

honest answers only please.
#note1lah…34ll

2024-11-15 19:54:45

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With Alby Hub you're good. 🙏

2024-11-15 19:53:18

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The only thing that people are recommended to do is to run Alby Hub. If you do that, then you're good.

2024-11-15 19:31:40

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There is the Alby Account with the lightning address, the Alby Extension - those do NOT give you a node. You have to connect a node to those. NWC (Nostr Wallet Connect) is the best spec for that.
Alby Hub comes with a lightning node.
So Alby Hub is the node/wallet/where your sats are and you connect other services (Extension, Account, Nostr Clients, etc.) to that one.
does this explain it?

2024-11-15 19:27:19

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We make sure that the old feeds etc. continue to work. (our node does not go away) A priority is to interrupt existing users as little as possible.
But we ask people to run an Alby Hub (or other NWC wallet/node) to move the funds there.
I think we now have such great tools now to run all this and put users in control. This is super exciting and btw. this also addresses to remove some dependency on Alby node ;)

2024-11-15 19:19:00

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Thanks for the feedback and words, I appreciate that a lot!
I am totally with you there and that's also to goal and a reason why we have built Alby Hub.
Check it out on Git Hub. While we try to make things easy you can use it in the level of which you're comfortable with.
In that thread there are a few misconceptions about Alby Hub it seems.
Would be happy to show you more and learn more of what you would like to see or where we can improve.
Did you already try to run it on your own machine? home server or something?

2024-11-15 19:14:13

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Actually there have been some experiments by Alby on this: https://github.com/getAlby/lite/
Alby Hub uses by default the Alby Relay but everything is e2e encrypted because of nostr.
It also uses the Alby esplora which just provides blockchain data.
If you don't want data to be shared you can set permissions (e.g. use an isolated connection to only create invoices).
You have all the options.

2024-11-15 19:05:28

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It's pretty straight forward I think. Many for example run the Alby Hub on a Start9 and it just works in one click.
Also we make sure that existing podcast feeds continue to work and there is no interruption for existing users.
But we want and have to make sure that people are in control of their wallets.
And yes, it will be hard for a small team to build and run things for free forever.

2024-11-15 19:00:33

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oh such kind words.
how do you expect being able to put all the resources in to build and run these tools?
You want others to pay for the resources that you use and if you have to do a slight change then you scream "shame on you"?
Run it on a $20 Pi and everything works. If that's too much or somebody else provides better or cheaper services then go there.

2024-11-15 18:52:07

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feel free to go somewhere else if you don't like or value what we offer.
And I guess you know that our tools like the Alby Hub are FOSS?!

2024-11-15 18:48:53

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It's exciting to try to run a service on the bitcoin standard. Especially in these times. The great thing is amounts can then be lowered for users.

2024-11-15 18:30:45

which service is it? 🤔
https://m.primal.net/MEJb.png

2024-11-15 18:29:17

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we have to add much more information there, quick important ones:
+ we make sure that no feeds break and that the podcast feeds keep working
+ we also do not force people to pay but people have the choice to run Alby Hub anywhere. Many do for example on Start9. Currently we offer a paid cloud hosting service and we soon will also offer some other premium services (also v4v). Of course we hope people value what we build and the service that we provide. But it's important to us that people have the choice and full control.

2024-11-15 18:24:11

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yeah, that's awesome to here! this is what we're building it for. And we think this is super powerful. We also have podcast collectives that share an Alby Hub together.
And all that on any system that the user controls. From Start9 to some Pi or some cloud server (or Alby's cloud option ;)
Let me know if you have questions, I am happy to help.
This is a big learning from us and we have to get better in explaining these changes and improvements.

2024-11-15 18:12:49

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and it was solved?

2024-11-15 18:11:29

Zaps still have the big issue that often the relays reject the zaps or the clients do not properly show the zaps.
Don't know how this can be best solved actually.

2024-11-15 18:08:41

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oh man, we're still bad at communicating it seems. sorry.😉
We put full focus on Alby Hub - the recently released wallet.

2024-11-15 18:06:27

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Hey, I guess you will also get the info. We're compiling some more details because we actually also have some quite nice new improvements for people to get started.
And we think the Alby Hub is the best way forward to put the user in control.

2024-11-15 18:04:37

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ohhh. have fun there!

2024-11-15 17:45:29

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can we help?

2024-11-15 17:17:36

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check damus and make sure you're also on the latest version of damus.

2024-11-15 15:51:17

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no, not yet. It's still new and under heavy development.
It is building on LDK as a lightning node implementation.

2024-11-15 15:50:15

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@npub16se…jdxk not sure if my note went through.
The great thing about Bitcoind and deflationary currencies is that the amounts get lower when the purchasing power rises.
This will happen here, too.
We learn a lot on how we as company and users can live on a bitcoin standard.

2024-11-15 15:46:34

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what errors have you been getting?

2024-11-15 15:45:14

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@npub1zad…7r8p what damus version are you using? There has been some update recently related to how zaps are validated.
I could zap you, the payment is sent and the zap receiped is published.

2024-11-15 14:23:36

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We work hard on making it as easy as possible for users and we think the tech is right to manage to do this now.
People should own their own keys, and should own their own money.
It comes with great power but it will be a bit harder than relying on others.
But people will have to move.
And we also think with NWC as a spec now users will also have the possibility to choose the service that they like best.

2024-11-15 14:17:59

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yeah it's a rough path, but together we will make it.
Also each question and problem just makes it better and thus easier for others.
WE CAN DO THIS!!

2024-11-15 13:40:06

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Sats should not be stuck and here I am pretty sure that this error can be fixed.
It's still the pain of early adopters. We've come along way and people are able to run a node 😉 we'll get there. It takes work and time, but I am confident that together as a community we can build great things for everyone.

2024-11-15 13:37:25

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what's your recommendation or ideal scenario?
As I read your messages you think people should be in control and we want to decentralize as much as possible, correct?
We have hubs that run for 5+ podcasters. Do you think that's too expensive?
I also hope that hosters themself see a opportunity here.

2024-11-15 13:34:24

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We've been pushing in that direction for a while, it will take time. We put a lot of effort in being backwards compatible which also means no feeds must be updated for the time being.
It's ultimately a question of being self-sovereign and in full control. This might have the downside that you need to put some resources in, but it gives you full independence and control.
Otherwise one is relying on others putting those resources in and if something changes one might be dependent.
With Alby Hub we build a usable way to be self-sovereign and in control.

2024-11-15 13:27:08

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Interesting one. So you mean a setting to basically change the mint, correct?

2024-11-15 13:24:20

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sorry. I thought @npub18u0…lumk was in the thread.
@npub18u0…lumk What is blocked?
The issue with emptying a lighting wallet are the lighting fees which are hard to know upfront and there are related attack vectors to steal funds.
Thus probably all lightning wallets require a small reserve based on the amount you try to send and this sadly makes it hard to send the last sat sometimes.
If you have issues contact support and I am sure you get the sats in no time.

2024-11-15 12:22:30

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can you explain "captured" - as we put a lot of work in to put users in control. With the Alby Hub, the work on NWC as a protocol, etc.
feedback is appreciated.

2024-11-15 12:20:43

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aaaand, to give users options we also put a lot of work in to make Alby Hub run everywhere (e.g. on a tiny, cheap Pi)
there is a lot that is being done, so we appreciate your support and time.

2024-11-15 12:19:26

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btw. prices will be adjusted for sure.
We're learning a lot there also on how as a company and customers we can be on a bitcoin standard. 😉

2024-11-15 12:05:39

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What is blocked?
The issue with emptying a lighting wallet are the lighting fees which are hard to know upfront and there are related attack vectors to steal funds.
Thus probably all lightning wallets require a small reserve based on the amount you try to send and this sadly makes it hard to send the last sat sometimes.
If you have issues contact support and I am sure you get the sats in no time.

2024-11-15 11:41:25

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this error looks like a BlueWallet authentication error with LNDHub.
if you use Alby be aware that if you create new lndhub credentials then the old ones become invalid and you must add use the new lndhub credentials in bluewallet.
let me know if we can help.

2024-11-15 11:36:10

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meh, this message sucks and also gives a wrong impression.
As it's already known we have the full focus on Alby Hub and we must reduce the limits and want people to run their own hubs.
I make sure that some proper information and plan is shared asap. We can't just send such a message that just confuses everybody. Sorry about that.

2024-11-15 11:33:02

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hey, what problem do you see. sorry I don't know about the case? can I help?
We only focus fully on Alby Hub and no longer on the shared wallet for now. So you're good to go there!

2024-11-15 11:26:42

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The lightning address is there exactly for that and allows to change the wallet that is used. (as opposed to the node key)
We believe those "addresses" should be owned by the user and the user can then choose the wallets freely. This is the beauty of the open network.
At Alby we always have been working towards that.
What do you miss - except maybe a free option?

2024-11-15 10:49:22

Is nodeless similar to serverless - it means somebody else's node/server?

2024-11-15 10:47:28

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To speak of a knockoff is even hilarious to me.
I mean, what a genius invention is it to show the block time instead of the time on a well known device with very basic components?

2024-11-15 00:18:36

The state of bitcoin in 2024: fighting if somebody is allowed to show the current block number on a device (on a devices similar to thousands that normally show the time)
This is really a new low.

2024-11-14 17:25:09

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and with an ubuntu machine it works?!

2024-11-14 17:19:46

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whoa, what?!. interesting.
I am still debugging this but without success. so you have this reproducable on a debian?

2024-11-10 19:25:01

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that for sure was a dumb comment. :) not intended to be taken serous.
But I still don’t understand an argument.
haha, is that the favorit topic some of the bitcoin religion like to argue about? that carnivore religion is stupid
let’s write code 🙏

2024-11-10 19:15:29

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🤔 so you don’t believe Ross’s information and references there,
not that strange Curtis guy,
also not the justice system which dropped the charges,
you dislike the bitcoiners who like Ross,
double life + 40 years without parole is fine because you “think”.
;)

2024-11-10 18:58:52

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I don’t think Ross thinks he is a hero at all. far from it. did you ever listen to what he says and see what he does?!
maybe some Bitcoiners treat him like that, but that’s not his fault.
you base your thinking on some unproven claims that have been dropped by the justice system.
I don’t see you applying that critical thinking that you claim others should have.
and I think villainizing somebody is as bad as making somebody a hero.
the specific facts should be the only thing that matters no matter if angel or devil.

2024-11-10 18:52:16

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you did not reply to me.
did you read the content on the freeross site?
did you listen to him and look into what he is doing?
and what is a deserved sentence for which crime?
why were the charges that you focus on dropped?

2024-11-10 18:48:49

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seems your reasoning is more like because disliking some bitcoiners?

2024-11-10 18:06:02

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it’s about a crime that somebody is not convicted for and has thus not really something to do with another crime somebody committed and is convicted for. it’s a successful distraction…
I don’t see how you can justify that somebody is convicted for a crime that you say should not be charged on the bases of another claim for which charges actually had been dropped.
how is this justice?
but let’s research that claims and also why it was dropped.

2024-11-10 17:49:41

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it also has nothing to do with “heros”. it must be about justice and not if somebody likes somebody or not.
In the Assange case many people said there was a rape case and because of that he is guilty of everything and people did not care.
which is bad imo.
if there was case A then one must be prosecuted for that, but that has mostly nothing to do with another case case B.
and if you say he is a danger, did you look at his actions in prison?

2024-11-10 17:43:42

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Shouldn’t you then call for the prosecution of that crime? and that the crimes he is convicted for is commuted?
It’s not OK or how things work or should work.
one is and should be sentenced for the crime that somebody committed and is convicted based on a due court process with evidence presented.

2024-11-10 17:24:22

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again, first of all he is not convicted of that. so it seems it is not that clear.
but as I said before and to go with it, what should be a justified sentence for that? and is his sentence justified for you justified - and compared that to other sentences.
what should be my sentence of saying Alex should be killed? ;)

2024-11-10 16:59:28

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some of the investigators actually got convicted for some fraud if I remember correctly.
and also I think it never was proven that these messages are by him. (I need to read up on that agin)
I assume you read the material on the freeross website?

2024-11-10 16:57:07

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if he would have been convicted of murder of 5 people then probably nobody would complain.
but he is not and there are no people dead. (and as far as I remember even one of the people who should have been killed spoke out in favor if him)
and even if we assume the chat is real and from him the sentence is not justified, is it? actual murderers have gotten way less.
It’s been many years that I researched the case more - I need to refresh it - but just from looking at the crimes he is convicted for the sentence is a no-go. (esp. in comparison to other sentences of similar crimes)

2024-11-10 16:44:32

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independent of what was going on and only on the grounds of what he was convicted for…
in relation and compared to other cases do you think the sentence is justified and deserved?
did you already look at other cases?

2024-11-10 12:09:32

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I will debug it later when I am at the computer.
but the router should not be a problem because the connection goes through a nostr relay

2024-11-10 11:34:55

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might be some networking issue. hmm

2024-11-10 11:34:22

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and btw. it’s mainly about the amount of the sentence. compare that to other, even related crimes.
and for example read the murder for hire case. no murder happened. much of the evidence is questionable and not a full proof. and then compare that to other sentences.
Not even Ross says he is an “innocent hacker”.
I really think you should do more reading before you make such broad comments and also don’t bring a reference to Aron or such in here.

2024-11-10 11:25:14

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can you go to getalby.com/node - the wallet configuration.
unlink it there.
and then in the hub try it again?

2024-11-10 11:01:52

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what did you read? that US government press release?
read more,
but with all respect that post there sounds like it’s useless to have a decent conversation with you on that topic.

2024-11-10 10:30:21

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I think you need to do more reading on this.

2024-11-10 10:22:24

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so under connections what does it say about getalbycom?

2024-11-09 14:49:25

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nice.
did you chat with them about the possibility?

2024-11-08 23:59:56

@npub12rv…85vg could cashu be used for this actually?
https://blog.nymtech.net/the-nym-token-flow-powering-the-worlds-most-private-network-48c15db379c5#3535

2024-11-08 23:37:45

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How far can you actually ship your products?

2024-11-08 15:24:15

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I always wonder what the internet would look like today with him being around.

2024-11-08 15:16:57

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good one! 🙏
do you know any info online as a good start to learn.
there is so much scam out there and then I (with no credibility) come and tell this.