bumi

working on getalby.com - a browser extension with lightning and Nostr support

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bumi@getalby.com

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bumi@getalby.com

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atlas.nostr.land

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2024-11-05 14:41:41

https://m.primal.net/LtYk.png

2024-10-28 13:05:32

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with 11 relays and let's say a relay URL is ~20 characters long that's then 220+ bytes in the zap request. that still should be good, I've seen muuuch more than that.
Alby Hub for example also returns that metadata in the transaction list and as the whole transaction list also has a size limit (as it's just a nostr event) a lot of transactions with big zap requests can become an issue there, too.

2024-10-28 12:27:51

We have to reduce the byte size of zaps. Some zaps are just too big and are several KB of data (without the user even providing a comment) which causes problems.
zap space is limited!

2024-10-25 14:28:50

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check the settings in the hub. there you can do that.
you can use multiple alby accounts with the same hub, but you have to do the wallet configuration manually.
create a new connection in the hub, copy the secret and go to the alby account - wallet configuration and configure it there

2024-10-18 07:53:38

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I use https://tabby.sh

2024-10-17 15:10:58

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did you even use it? check out the individual tools.
no signup is required.
but I let you troll now. 👋

2024-10-17 13:59:21

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🕵️ no traditional entity is.
read the code

2024-10-16 15:41:06

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I think the main confusion is because the extension always needs some sort of lightning "wallet" and that then can have a local key that is used for nostr. (and keys are only locally stored and a wallet is always some remote wallet)
this means you can add the same wallet to the extension and use this same wallet with different keys.
you don't need to create a different alby accounts or different wallets.
@npub1rau…dees I will pass it on.

2024-10-16 12:57:18

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what KYC crap?
you can add whatever you want (LND, NWC, CLN, …) also multiple times the same, it just needs to be a lightning wallet

2024-10-16 12:35:53

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huch?! in alby you have multiple since day one. what are you missing?
there is a bit of a storage limit by the browser above 5ish but that should be mostly not a problem, is it?

2024-10-15 18:22:48

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likely there was a timeout error which caused some strange behavior. can you send me the account you use?

2024-10-15 09:34:42

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the extension just has your keys. it’s the clients like primal.net nostrudel, etc. that have the logic and manage follow, profile, etc.
so it’s likely in one of those or the relays something is up.

2024-10-15 09:29:53

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which is fine, isn’t it?
it gets easier, thus the barrier of entry gets lower. and I am convinced more people understand the benefits.
it will always be a bit more complicated than giving up everything and put others in control, but more people also understand the benefit of not doing that.
I also think that lightning node OGs are a bit burnt, because of the early experience of running a node was so much more complicated.
I like the comparison:
if you asked early pilots who embarked on the adventure to fly across the ocean they would have that it will never be possible for an average person to cross the atlantic on a plane… and here we are.

2024-10-15 09:20:06

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I am convinced people run nodes, and see how much easier it now already got.
backup is still the hard part but we will also solve this.
what is the main issue that you think people will not run a node and take control over their funds?

2024-10-15 09:03:00

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You have to move to the Alby Hub - the new wallet for you.
you can there choose if you want to connect it to an Alby account or not and run it without it (without ln address and other features then)

2024-10-15 08:59:10

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the fee you probably have there is for your first channel - that is the connection to the lightning network.
you get one with a certain capacity through which you then can receive payments.

2024-10-14 19:44:29

https://idf-tweets-gaza.airwars.org/

2024-10-14 15:36:54

best nostr app with podcasting just got an update.
#note16y4…957x

2024-10-14 15:09:01

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sadly I was not there...
but if you send us an email I'll make sure that we send you some swag!
@npub1xts…kk5s looking good. very classy, as always! 🤩

2024-10-14 15:05:44

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I was always a big fan of Matt and I've especially followed it in the early days of WP. Automattic was always an inspiration as a company. - but I haven't followed it in the recent years and I don't know the current drama...
my comment was more about developing an alternative solution (on Nostr for example).
in a decentralized plugin repository naming and trust is the issue, isn't it?

2024-10-14 13:07:26

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in the end this boils down to the issue of naming and trust, isn’t it?
who says plugin xyz is the one I want and is not confused with another one that is called xyz?
we still did not solve this in a usable and scalable way, did we?

2024-10-13 11:27:43

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11X-T51lQrg
[...] we see a lot of sovereign nations realizing that the entire international order, as well as international law has been unraveling before their eyes. The amount of power that global powers asserted relating to ICJ, ICC, UN, and that the cease fire recommendations have all been ignored, sent a clear message to the world community that the United Nations has little to no power in regulating any of these international incidents. So a lot of countries are applying for BRICS, not because of the attraction of BRICS as much, but more because of the push from the West away from the current system or the world order we have today.

2024-10-13 08:41:25

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one is not a Bitcoiner if one does not use it.
sounds to me you’ve been the first bitcoiner there today.

2024-10-12 14:25:25

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😍 thanks for your support!!

2024-10-12 09:51:29

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sadly this can currently not be shown.

2024-10-09 13:56:06

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I've checked the logs on Alby's side and since you've unlocked the node payments seem to work again. Can you confirm this?
An email notification has been sent. Do you have suggestions on how to do this better that it does not get missed.
To keep up with the latest version we from time to time force updates but send email notifications before that. We will send more of those in the future. Users also can always manually update ideally.
Because you own the keys the unlock to start the node with your password is required.

2024-10-09 12:57:57

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is your node started and unlocked?
when in doubt log into your hub.
did you get an email in the last days?
there was an automatic version update scheduled after which you have to unlock your node again (because it is restarted).
if this is the case you should have gotten a few emails about it.

2024-10-09 09:18:47

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sometimes updates are shipped, you should have gotten an email about this.
when an update is auto-installed then you need to unlock it again (as all data is encrypted)
it's recommended to install updates manually from time to time to avoid this.

2024-10-09 08:36:13

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actually it depends (as always)…
depending on the usecase it is also not too good to spread funds across too many channels.
the LSPs should be very well connected.

2024-10-09 07:11:22

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who do you try to zap?
this is an error on the recipient side.

2024-10-07 22:06:37

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJvfULLGjQE

2024-10-07 11:00:44

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something like this: https://primal.net/e/note1tnm3gl98rylp6quksw6v2cgjz5ze04vtzrj5kq4asruuqgphfx5q9st0ln ?

2024-10-05 21:59:16

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvsR9ojQ66E

2024-10-05 14:23:46

"In the future when we have a museum for this genocide we will have a special place where we put the pictures of the journalists who allowed it to happen. There will be a wing for the [...] journalists who were the enabler of the genocide"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAmk4efA2t0

2024-10-05 10:28:47

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAmk4efA2t0

2024-10-05 09:14:31

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to receive LNURL payments?
create invoice should be enough for that. often lookup of the invoice status is also helpful.

2024-10-03 19:01:59

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what do you exactly need?

2024-10-03 10:58:23

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPE6vbKix6A

2024-10-02 11:01:35

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what was Newton wrong about?

2024-10-02 10:00:28

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doable already through NWC.

2024-10-02 07:40:26

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you should google it.

2024-10-01 22:38:54

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how did he do that?
it looked to me reasonable that they should not mis/abuse the WP trademark.

2024-10-01 22:05:48

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I did not follow the details so far.
but I have high respect for and trust in Matt.
isn’t it about a trademark misuse? that could have easily be solved?

2024-10-01 21:49:12

standing on the shoulders of giants!

2024-10-01 17:28:59

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LAN party?

2024-10-01 16:18:48

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ruby is still my favorit language. programmer’s best friend.

2024-09-30 18:49:17

https://gov.rootstockcollective.xyz/t/2049-bitcoin-innovator-grant-boltz-the-easiest-way-to-get-rbtc/34

2024-09-30 14:22:03

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yeah, for sure.
but wondering about others and I am interested if people consider this expensive

2024-09-30 13:37:52

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would you pay up front with LN to get one without the add?

2024-09-30 13:37:04

COLDCARD™ Mk4 for $157.94. Yes/No? is it expensive?

2024-09-28 13:51:48

Seems you all have been to Japan, haven't you? 😉
My cousin who just turned 18 is traveling there in the next weeks with her family and I want to recommend them and gift them a great experience. Do you have a must-do recommendation? thanks 🙏

2024-09-28 07:40:51

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did you add some big comment or something there?

2024-09-27 07:17:17

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congrats! that’s amazing!

2024-09-27 04:44:28

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The way lightning works currently both sender and receiver have to be online.
so also Alby Hub needs to be online, the easiest is to run it on some device that is always on (or a cloud service)
if it’s offline or locked no payments can be made.

2024-09-27 04:41:31

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you need to use Alby Hub - that’s where the sats are then.
Alby Go or your nostr client use the Alby Hub.

2024-09-26 12:49:48

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the official version will be released in the next days. wait a bit.

2024-09-26 11:23:09

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I think we had a node restart sadly.

2024-09-25 20:08:38

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It's hard to integrate in terms of APIs and the usage is not that high.
Maybe somebody is up for contributing on this though?

2024-09-25 17:50:07

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yep, alby hub does not work with CLN.
there is a NWC plugin for CLN afaik. those could potentially be used. then it works nicely with the extension.
but I don’t know about the status of that plugin

2024-09-25 17:48:34

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no core lightning.
we also actually currently deprecate greenlight and breez. for various reasons but it does not seem there is a clear path to make those generally accessible from.

2024-09-25 17:43:07

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if the hub is offline you can not receive. the payment fails - the sender will get an error.
nothing is lost, but you are unable to receive.

2024-09-25 10:52:47

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yes! I thinks those ideas are the exciting ones. with lightning we can do much cooler stuff than just to scan some code and pay.
check in at the bar and each drink will just automatically be charged with NWC… they will not pay upfront, the bar can request a payment and has a budget…
(if your bar rugs you then you’re for sure in the wrong bar. I also expect my bar to serve me decent drinks ;) )

2024-09-24 19:47:13

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alby hub is quite similar.
but much easier and more lightweight (with that more stable and more universally usable)
also you have more control over app permissions and budget.
but quite similar.

2024-09-24 19:45:11

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pssst: https://getalby.com/auth/users/new?invite_code=63ac0e99

2024-09-24 19:44:19

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why is your hub down? what issue do you see?

2024-09-23 14:19:16

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any relay works.
we do some more special stuff in the relay for validation and protection and optimizing for NIP47 but ultimately any relay works.

2024-09-23 14:04:01

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what means disappeared? is your LND node running there properly and is properly synced?

2024-09-23 13:43:10

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I can not speak for BTCPay but I know that there was some debugging going on in regards to how BTCPay subscribes to events.
To answer the question about the relay:
if the Alby relay is going away you just use a different relay. in that case you will have to reconnect the app (btcpay) to the wallet that you use again. (because the relay is set as part of the connection secret and the app and wallet need to know through which relay they have to communicate)
but that’s the beauty of NWC, it uses the default Nostr infrastructure and no special setup would be needed in that case.

2024-09-22 22:19:50

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thanks! that’s great to hear.
fyi. the official app for the Start9 marketplace is ready soon.

2024-09-21 10:14:03

and then this from 1999:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tCC9yxUIdw
#note1rmu…d26c

2024-09-21 10:13:52

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and then this from 1999: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tCC9yxUIdw

2024-09-21 10:10:45

After the last update ditto.pub works so nicely with the Alby Extension! thanks @npub1q3s…d26p

2024-09-21 10:09:58

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yeah. thanks a lot! very helpful. We need to learn if/how people want to use this.
please report more whatever comes to your mind! thanks!

2024-09-21 10:09:04

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you can. or use the cloud version. whatever is a good fit for you.

2024-09-21 06:57:13

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oh nice! sounds interesting!

2024-09-20 22:00:02

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here is an invite: https://getalby.com/auth/users/new?invite_code=b109e189
It will guide you to setup Alby Hub. Let me know if you have questions and feedback. ;)

2024-09-20 21:57:11

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You might need to add your lightning address in the nostr profile - this does not happen automatically.

2024-09-20 21:56:06

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it will allow you to setup your own lightning wallet (Alby Hub) and give you an account with a LN address

2024-09-20 21:55:27

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here is an Alby invite code for you: https://getalby.com/auth/users/new?invite_code=9bf19a5b

2024-09-20 18:51:59

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yes, you can use the wallet in the hub to pay an invoice of a sub account.
we have to learn and see what’s the usage pattern and if/how users want to use it.
so thanks for that feedback!

2024-09-20 18:49:42

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just trying to investigate what happened and how it can be improved.
so I appreciate that feedback.

2024-09-20 16:48:24

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yes, best is to use then subaccounts for everyone to have this separation.
the "main" account will always see everything.

2024-09-20 16:23:01

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I've inspected this further and also chatted with the LSP.
You are having a self-hosted hub there, your Alby account is connected. I see a lot of restarts of your hub there. It even looks here like you have started the Alby Hub twice in parallel. I think the hub does not protect against this, yet. But this for sure causes problems due to the nature of how nodes connect and manage state.
One channel was closed by your node actually (which indicates that there was an issue running the node).
Where do you run this hub?
And actually if you don't want or need a self-custodial lightning node, then there is no point in running it. At the state that we and lightning is at there will be some channels involved and an assumption is you want to connect to the network otherwise you would not run it.

2024-09-20 12:56:47

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Alby did not close any channel. Alby Hub recommends LSPs but you do not have any Alby channel.
And channel closure issues is something that all lightning teams are working on (LND, LDK, etc.) We put a lot of effort in trying to optimize this - also recommending those LSPs where we know that they work hard on providing good channel availability.
That's the state that lightning is still in and can not fully be prevented just yet in a decentralized, diverse network.
Alby Hub is also not "logging out" your system might stop/restart it which requires an unlock again to decrypt the data.
hope this clarifies some things. if you don't like it, that's fine... - actually the great thing of the open network that people can choose the tool what works for them. :) - just wanted to provide some help/clarification here.

2024-09-20 12:46:11

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it works without Alby's backend!
We specifically use NWC in Alby Go as a protocol that directly can talk to your self hosted Alby Hub and in v1.8 you also no alby account is required anymore with the hub. (you might want an account for notifications, ln address, etc. but it is not required.)
So Alby Go talks directly to your Alby Hub wherever you host it.

2024-09-20 06:59:17

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any ideas on better texts? (which also seems not to be read)
that button explicitly says “open a channel”. and not “next” or something.
the edge case here is a bit that the user has a alby hosted balance which is used instead of showing the invoice QR. we wanted to make this smooth. feedback is also that people don’t like complicated long onboarding steps. one-click done.
but there is put a lot of work in these processes. feel free to open an issue or PR.. all open source and early versions.

2024-09-20 06:49:43

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thanks for the feedback. seems people don’t read the text…
channel opens are also sadly still hard. and some want one-click and some want big scary second warnings.
It’s open source, ideas and pull requests are also very welcome.
everyone works hard on those things to get right for the different cases and users.

2024-09-20 06:28:20

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which LSP did you use? we don’t run the LSPs. but this is likely a wrong email. could it be that you tried to open a public channel from a LSP that does not support it?
in that case you also did not pay.

2024-09-19 21:32:44

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I am rather sure that no nwc client supports multiple relays at this point.
and the implementation like in the spec would have issues because of underlaying query parsers.

2024-09-19 15:55:37

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I was also looking into that one yesterday! pretty cool

2024-09-18 22:26:42

sounds interesting:
https://decentraleyes.org/
"Protects you against tracking through "free", centralized, content delivery. It prevents a lot of requests from reaching networks like Google Hosted Libraries, and serves local files to keep sites from breaking. Complements regular content blockers."

2024-09-18 21:56:37

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afaik those are default of the shelf components.
one has to assume any device is compromised - this just became more obvious.

2024-09-18 21:38:48

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yeah, it sucks that hardware is just so extremely hard.
I admire them for doing it and always feel like I need to support them and such projects more in those efforts by buying the products. - so high5 that you did it!
did you try other similar projects?

2024-09-18 19:55:00

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whatever you are comfortable with using.
here the goal was to use the coinos wallet with the alby account.
you can also check the alby extension that would work the, too

2024-09-18 18:15:42

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@npub1h2q…w8ch do you plan to implement the other NWC functions, too?

2024-09-18 18:14:08

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no, nothing is required. it's a standalone app that has everything it needs. resource usage is also very limited (it loads the blockchain data through a block explorer API)

2024-09-18 18:12:13

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True. hmm, that spec needs to be updated there. because if more than one is provided then it should be an array imo relay[]=xxx&relay[]=yyy
otherwise different parsers interpret it differently.
At the same time multiple relays add some complexity for apps and wallets. so far all NWCs used one relay afaik.
I personally doubt that relays for NWC are the weak link in the chain and need redundancy that the event is published to multiple ones.
Also considering privacy and that those are no "normal" events.
Do you know why nostr.mom seems to not work for NWC events?

2024-09-18 16:07:55

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@npub1h2q…w8ch does not support all NWC functions, yet. So far only sending and loading the balance I think.

2024-09-18 15:41:45

Is open hardware becoming more important?
like https://mntre.com

2024-09-18 15:31:25

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I've debugged this and there seems to be an issue with the @npub1kva…tkzv NWC URL.
Minibits adds multiple relays (e.g. relay=wss://relay.minibits.cash&relay=wss://relay.primal.net&relay=wss://relay.damus.io&relay=wss://nostr.mom ) This is not as the spec describes it and I think also different client implementation interpret this differently.
Our implementation here uses the last relay and this one seems to not respond to a NWC request.
@npub1kva…tkzv I recommend to only use one relay now.
(We as Alby also operate a NWC optimized relay that we offer.)