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Simple and Private Bitcoin P2P Exchange

🤖 Trade BTC: robosats.com (Tor Browser)
😺 Project page: git.robosats.com
🏫 How to use: learn.robosats.com

Public Key

npub1p2psats79rypr8lpnl9t5qdekfp700x660qsgw284xvq4s09lqrqqk3m82

NIP-57 Address

robodevfund@vlt.ge

Profile Code

nprofile1qqsq4qcw4c0z3jq3nlselj46qxumysl8hndd8sgy89r6nxq2c8jlspspzemhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumn0wd68ytnzv9hxgqghwaehxw309a3xjarrda5kuetj9eek7cmfv9kz7tj0ysg

Publishing to

relay.nostr.band

bitcoiner.social

nostr21.com

Author Public Key

npub1p2psats79rypr8lpnl9t5qdekfp700x660qsgw284xvq4s09lqrqqk3m82

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Last Notes

2024-01-30 08:42:42

The RoboSats Experimental coordinator entered an scheduled maintainance yesterday just as planned 👷‍♂️
The stop will take about 1 week.
You know what's cool though? We recently pre-released our decentralized (multi-coordinator) client, so you can still use RoboSats. This might be a great chance to run some trade of small size in the new coordinators. You can simply open dex.robosats.com in Tor Browser :)
https://image.nostr.build/f03bd2505af6e34d048445ae2ef7e3ad71b41665fa0c7402135f8fa20def368f.jpg#m=image%2Fjpeg&dim=1080x1591&alt=RoboSats+Experimental+maintenancd+stop+notice&blurhash=%5E4Oz0qE100%5E%2B00WBR5RikXtRaxWB00Rj%5E*t6_2ofozbHV%40WAj%5Bof00xu%5E%2BIU%7EWj%5BNFxuRkIoxuWB00t7_2Ri%7EWWBNLRkxts%3AR%25of00oJ%3FbW%3F%5E%2BWB&x=2bdc30abf948c269fbec2db12cd54b010d8dfd320fc1dd90279c2b929b99c079

2024-01-23 13:24:28

⚡ Did you already try the decentralized RoboSats app? It allows you to connect with any RoboSats coordinator from your browser over Tor (and from your Umbrel / StartOS nodes soon!)
We are hosting the client app for you to try it in: robodexarjwtfryec556cjdz3dfa7u47saek6lkftnkgshvgg2kcumqd.onion
You can also use the shortcut https://dex.robosats.com in Tor Browser.

2023-10-18 19:22:12

🤖 RoboSats v0.5.3 is out! 🚀
🟠 The main change on this version is the much improved F2F feature by @KoalaSat .
The app now allows robots to add a location for face-to-face cash trades. The book page will display a map with all F2F orders.
To best protect robots privacy, the exact location of the order is slightly randomized (just in case someone is reckless enough to pin their own house!). The location is randomized in a radius of ~15 Km. This means it's not possible to be precise, and the exact location for the f2f trade can only be shared on the encrypted chat. Note that enabling high-resolution maps can leak your IP to external tiling servers if you are not using Tor Browser.
Of course, adding a geolocation tag to your order is only useful for face-to-face cash payment method. You can completely disregard this feature if you do not want to use this payment method.
If you like the amazing work KoalaSat put into this feature you can let him know by zapping some Sats to @npub1v3t…yvjh 🔥🚀
https://github.com/RoboSats/robosats/releases/tag/v0.5.3-alpha
https://image.nostr.build/0bd41ed7f33a99eb222172f23e31ac9629d41393d4bc980a54adf8d208f4e52d.jpg

2023-08-27 12:52:53

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Yes! Good progress on whipping LND back into working order 😁 will be posting an update (which is just a summarization of what the devs have updated us with in the Simplex/matrix/telegram groups)

2023-08-24 18:10:33

RoboSats Lightning Node is having issues connecting to peers since yesterday EOD. We are tracking the issue here:
https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd/issues/7917
Apologies for the inconvenience, robo-folks
Thank you Lightning Labs for the prompt help!

2023-08-02 11:01:13

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You can definitely notify us over Nostr, but there might be a faster response in the RoboSats Simplex group chat: https://learn.robosats.com/contribute/code/#communication-channels

2023-08-02 03:31:57

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Awesome!! Thanks for the shout out, glad you enjoyed this privacy tool! 🤖⚡🤖⚡

2023-08-02 03:29:08

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Simplex is kind of weird. I'm still figuring out how it works myself 😅 my understanding is that the group host device must be online to allow new users to join the group. So it could've been that there was a bad timing that the device was off line for a moment when you tried to connect. By now, it *should* be connected.
Not to mention, sometimes a message is not visible to another user, which I guess is an issue due to large group sizes (you'll notice it takes a while to send a message in the RoboSats group). But its private 😁 you can use an anonymous identity to chat in the RoboSats group

2023-08-02 03:11:25

If you have experience using an LN wallet with RoboSats, we would greatly appreciate your help updating the RoboSats compatible wallets doc! https://learn.robosats.com/docs/wallets/
Not every LN wallet is tested ... and some info is outdated. Help by opening a GitHub PR editing the doc! 🤖⚡
https://void.cat/d/3nYrKAYVMMic45mJMFw7Hh.png

2023-07-25 23:55:42

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At some point when you send to cold storage (on chain) from buying sats on RoboSats (Lightning), you will have to swap out and incur on chain fee (and whatever swap service you use).
Using only cellphone, a good setup would be the RoboSats app, Blixt wallet for Lightning, and then using RoboSats to swap out at low fees or use another swap service provider with low fees like swap.diamond hands.technology to send your funds to cold storage. There are other wallets that users have reported success with, like Phoenix wallet and OBW to name a couple

2023-07-19 17:02:01

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Hmm tough question... 😁 biases aside though, there are plenty of alternative options besides RoboSats. Like Bisq, Hodlhodl, Peach, Agora Desk, LNP2P bot...
Find one that suits your needs!

2023-07-19 02:51:03

When someone explains why they have yet to use a P2P exchange to stack sats privately 😁:
https://void.cat/d/5rK5N4XCjuvE3UnNdiKoEE.png

2023-07-16 19:06:32

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Perhaps a little bit of all that contributes to higher premiums on gift cards!
Physical gift card code exchange is probably the most private method, but similarly its so private that its hard to defend yourself in a dispute because there's no definitive way to prove you gave your peer an authentic gift card code that hasn't been used already. Thus why e-gift card with burner email is recommended since you get email receipt proving your peer received the gift card code (but obviously not as private and people still use physical gift card code all the time without issue)
If more people used RoboSats as a sort of P2P bitrefill.. Then a circular economy of sorts could take hold where buyers stacking sats provide sellers with gift cards they can use for their daily living purposes. Rinse and repeat 🙂

2023-07-16 17:05:03

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It certainly speaks to the degree of privacy a majority of end-users are willing to seek. End-users tend to gravitate towards convenient (albeit not private) fiat payment methods. There are lots of gift card options which are generally more private but its really not ideal for the receiver of fiat since they can only spend the funds in one place. Thus why gift card options tend to gravitate toward mostly Amazon where you can buy almost anything from one site lol
But there is always one rule that persists: the only prerequisite to having your bank app account closed is by having one in the first place 😁

2023-07-16 16:49:23

In a P2P market, users create the large-scale liquidity that they want to see!
P2P exchanges can't conjure immediately available liquidity in a slew of currencies (that’s not very P2P).
P2P exchanges depend on your help with word of mouth advertising. So, spread the word! 🤖⚡️
https://void.cat/d/5k4zgfn6tQ9egE6nMcGvN7.png

2023-07-06 11:18:39

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Thanks for the shout out!!
Indeed, the collection of sensitive user data in the first place is ripe for exploitation. Over just the last decade, billions of users/accounts have been compromised due to poor platform security or disgruntled employees.
So... Why collect data in the first place?? Its just asking for trouble and creates a target for malicious actors

2023-07-04 00:06:16

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Robo-oof
Just saw that news 🙃

2023-07-02 23:53:21

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#[1] Check out the numbers on these stats 👀👀
Awesome to see volume continue to steadily grow over time!!

2023-07-02 23:51:33

Copied from @Decentralized on Twitter:
If you like to know how @RoboSats is growing, how many orders are, or other statistics about Robosats, you need to visit the info published in: https://learn.robosats.com/stats/
Thanks to @AntonopulosL (Twitter handle) for actualizing it each month.
https://void.cat/d/N1VRGM2mRa7fUUMZBbyHzM.png

2023-07-02 00:59:53

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#[0] This is what open source projects are all about!! Maintaining and improving FOSS projects would be a daunting task without volunteer contributors willing to sacrifice their precious time.
((Also, sorry for noticing your awesome blog post so late @npub1fj9n2289q02q0hu28heugc2del9ml6jrnk489pt6232hynanygts28230n!))

2023-07-02 00:54:08

Power user @npub1fj9n2289q02q0hu28heugc2del9ml6jrnk489pt6232hynanygts28230n saw a problem and rolled up their sleeves to fix it! And they documented the dev setup process to work on RoboSats:
"Recently, a feature of RoboSats that I've come to enjoy namely LnProxy, broke. So I jumped in to try and fix it."
https://shyfire131.net/blog/getting-started-with-robosats-frontend-development

2023-07-01 13:12:38

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Sure thing here is the link to the matrix chat: https://matrix.to/#/#robosats:matrix.org
I'll forward your OP nostr post to the group!
Thanks for thinking of ways to make RoboSats even better!! 🤖⚡🤖⚡
Hopefully the devs with greater knowledge than me can comment on it and give insight into the feasibility of it 😅

2023-07-01 12:11:14

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It would be nice to negotiate the premium on an order before proceeding to the P2P chat stage! Keep in mind with the following response that I'm just a humble social media volunteer and am speaking from my understanding of previous discussions with Reckless_Satoshi:
I think an overarching concern when considering how peers communicate is protecting the end-users from fraud. By allowing P2P communications before the escrow is provided, it could (in worst case scenario) lead to attempted scams. A clever scammer might convince or persuade their peer to exchange fiat in an unsafe manner during this pre-escrow negotiation process. It could be as simple as persuading the peer to make the BTC<->FIAT trade off platform for whatever scammy reason, which makes the RoboSats dispute resolution process impossible when comms move off RoboSats. All trade comms with your peer should be kept within RoboSats' E2E encrypted P2P chat because you can export these logs and send to RoboSats staff for a dispute mediatior to review in case of attempted fraud. We want to keep the order flow such that peers only communicate after the seller provides the escrow.
Now, with that in mind, it might be possible that the "negotiation" process before exchanging fiat consists of submitting a new, proposed premium number without any additional context (peers ONLY exchange a number, no words or sentences for scammers to try and explain their tricks to a naive user). For example, you see a premium of 6% on a bitcoin sell order and you submit a negotiation number of "5%" and your peer can accept, decline, or counter offer with another number, like eBay kind of. In that way, end-users are protected and comms prior to submitting escrow are minimized.
Regardless, its a fun idea and worth discussing in more detail in the RoboSats public dev chat group on Matrix! Do you mind posting the idea there too, so others (like devs smarter than me) can see and comment? Thanks for taking time to think about how RoboSats could be made even better!!
P.S. there is a nostr-based exchange in the works, one such notable example is "Mostro" by the same developer who made lnp2pbot! Which RoboSats is heavily inspired by lnp2pbot!

2023-06-28 11:04:51

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Hey! Users seem to have reported success using Orbot + duckduckgo on their iOS when accessing RoboSats. Not sure regarding VPN though..

2023-06-27 10:46:48

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Awesome!! Thanks for trying it out 🤖⚡ I'm very pleased to hear the experience was smooth!
If you liked the platform, do tell a friend! RoboSats gets better with more users!

2023-06-26 00:54:28

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Usually payments from RoboSats are a few hops at most if you open a channel with WoS, Alby, ACINQ or some other similar large routing node. You can check out the channels that RoboSats has opened: https://amboss.space/node/0282eb467bc073833a039940392592bf10cf338a830ba4e392c1667d7697654c7e
With regards to opening channels towards the RoboSats experimental coordinator node, first check out the RoboSats documentation. Generally not recommended to open a channel towards RoboSats since its not a "routing" node: https://learn.robosats.com/contribute/liquidity/

2023-06-25 21:45:09

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Ah I see. I agree holding invoices could be done to attack the network, but RoboSats' use of hodl invoices is quite a ways away from being considered "malicious". This concern has actually been discussed at length in the RoboSats public chat/support groups. For a better response (I'm just a social media volunteer and not a dev and don't want to speak incorrectly), it might be best to direct this type of concern to the RoboSats Matrix public dev group chat (https://matrix.to/#/#robosats:matrix.org)
I'm sorry to redirect you 😅 please do spark the conversation on Matrix!

2023-06-24 15:16:57

You cannot "undo" the identity verification process!
If you want complete privacy in regards to how much you own, don't buy on an exchange that records this information. Mixing coins doesn't change the institution's record-keeping of how much BTC you've withdrawn from them.

2023-06-24 12:28:34

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Thanks for the shout out 👍 hopefully we can keep making RoboSats more and more awesome!!
Robo-personally, I am excited for the federation upgrade which will introduce the concept of many multiple LN coordinator nodes (decentralized) instead of the current single experimental coordinator node. This will make RoboSats more robust against jurisdictional shutdown!

2023-06-23 18:52:30

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While those payment methods aren't very private, any fiat payment method is allowed on RoboSats, see our docs: https://learn.robosats.com/docs/payment-methods/
It is recommended to use a payment method that is irreversible (without risk of charge back) and that does not require your real identity or banking info. Gift cards are usually the most private method, albeit more inconvenient and sometimes carries a premium because of that inconvenience.
Just depends how much you value your privacy 🙂 ultimately, RoboSats is as private as you make it.

2023-06-23 18:49:05

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#[1] You heard it here first, robo-folks:
RoboSats is amazing 🤖⚡🤖⚡

2023-06-22 23:06:25

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The sats are sent to the volunteer managing the nostr account, and they have a simple Alby proxy wallet set up. Normally do not have issue, but could be on Alby's end too

2023-06-22 20:32:36

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Hmm strange, it should be set up, but no worries! Zaps are appreciated (it supports the social media volunteer) but the greatest way to support the RoboSats project is to tell others to use the platform and thus increase liquidity!

2023-06-22 17:38:51

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Thank you fren! Likewise, thanks to all who use this privacy-focused tool! Without peers like you using RoboSats, then this P2P exchange would cease to exist 😁

2023-06-22 17:36:05

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Thank you for the shout out!! 🤖❤

2023-06-22 17:25:25

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Duckduckgo + Orbot appears to be successful for iOS users! It's not a RoboSats app, but at least could be used as an alternative instead 👍
Probably will not get around to iOS any time soon, dev efforts are focused on the RoboSats "federation" (decentralization) upgrade right now!
But that doesn't mean someone can't jump in and help kickstart an iOS app 🙂

2023-06-22 17:06:07

What a fun article covering your RoboSats experience! Thank you Jared Peters (@jaycpee8 on Twitter)!! 🤖⚡
"... dozens of robots in the marketplace, all with equally ridiculous usernames ... I honestly felt like I was in the Mos Espa market on Tatooine looking for the next Anakin Skywalker." Love it 🔥
https://bitcoinnews.com/how-to-buy-bitcoin-anonymously/

2023-06-22 11:15:02

Interesting stats 📊
As more and more users join the RoboSats order books (more liquidity and less imbalance between supply/demand), the avg premium on exchange orders is driven down from ~5% to ~3.5%!
Spread the good word of P2P to help reduce supply/demand imbalance!! 🤖⚡
https://void.cat/d/Xecsbfarb76cpsJszpKSDq.png
https://void.cat/d/6XtypD8gd3kzi2EwzwRoBb.png

2023-06-18 00:14:27

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Sorry to hear that 😢 Well, at least the same mistake won't be made twice 😅
Indeed, the BTC<->FIAT market rate will typically come with a premium and a positive premium is above that rate, whereas a negative premium is below that rate (AKA a "discount")
In future, you could try explaining to your peer in the P2P chat stage that you took this order before realizing the premium was negative, and hopefully your peer would understand so that you both could collaboratively cancel the order. Collab cancel means your bond isn't forfeited.

2023-06-17 14:25:42

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#[1] 🤖⚡ Now that's how you robo-stack on RoboSats!!

2023-06-13 04:40:01

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The goal of the Telegram chat was to make an easily accessible location to ask questions and seek help in a public forum. So from a community forum perspective, its easier and more accessible (wider audience available and existing user base) as well as an ability to sufficiently moderate community group chats.
The reality is also that casual (nontechnical) users who need the most help are disinclined to download a dedicated app to ask for help even if its a more private option. These casual users would more likely already have Telegram.
But regardless of privacy aspects, the fact the group chat owner account is currently irrecoverable is a different issue with services like Telegram.

2023-06-12 11:14:45

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Agreed 💯💯💯

2023-06-12 00:19:23

❗❗ Heads up ❗❗
RoboSats comms are migrating from Telegram to SimpleX/Nostr (general support) and the existing Matrix dev chat.
SimpleX: https://simplex.chat/contact#/?v=1-2&smp=smp%3A%2F%2F0YuTwO05YJWS8rkjn9eLJDjQhFKvIYd8d4xG8X1blIU%3D%40smp8.simplex.im%2FyEX_vdhWew_FkovCQC3mRYRWZB1j_cBq%23%2F%3Fv%3D1-2%26dh%3DMCowBQYDK2VuAyEAnrf9Jw3Ajdp4EQw71kqA64VgsIIzw8YNn68WjF09jFY%253D%26srv%3Dbeccx4yfxxbvyhqypaavemqurytl6hozr47wfc7uuecacjqdvwpw2xid.onion&data=%7B%22type%22%3A%22group%22%2C%22groupLinkId%22%3A%22hWnMVPnJl-KT3-virDk0JA%3D%3D%22%7D
Nostr: note1tfwvglg8xz8420pfgav0dc9mqekv02nkpck2axefklrema7lk6wszmwxdy
Matrix: https://matrix.to/#/#robosats:matrix.org
Consider Telegram groups deprecated.
Long story short: the group owner was indiscriminately banned by Telegram and thus managing the group effectively is no longer possible.
The silver lining: we can start fresh with a far more private messaging app.
https://stacker.news/items/191570
P.S. ...
Would highly recommend anyone actively using Telegram consider dropping it entirely in favor of a more private and secure messaging app (one where you can't be indiscriminately banned!!)
If you have friends using RoboSats, please make them aware of this update! 🤖⚡

2023-06-11 16:20:15

B/c successful trades aren't visible and untaken orders expire in 24hr, first-timers might take one glance at the order book and assume weak liquidity.
Trade turnover is actually quite high (orders get taken often) and there exists a highly liquid market!
https://learn.robosats.com/stats/
https://void.cat/d/GcUifGZkYD8oXtGTFSuEzF.png

2023-06-08 11:39:48

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#[1] Thanks for sharing!! So cool to see the platform continue to grow 🤖⚡🤖⚡

2023-06-08 11:38:23

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Great question! Probably 95% of users who open a dispute do not actually have fraud, but were miscommunication with their peer, the payment method itself, how the order flow works, etc.
Understandably, first-timers are extra jittery and are quick to open a dispute if a peer hasn't replied right away (give your peer time and be patient!).
Last time I saw a hard figure, it was about a year ago and there were 8000 total orders and 30 disputes had been initiated where only one(!) was identified as attempted fraud. Very very rare. Vast majority of peers just want to honestly stack private and P2P 👍

2023-06-08 03:26:27

LN "hodl" invoices are the tech that makes RoboSats work!
It "locks" funds in your wallet for the bond and escrow that "unlocks" based on your order state (successful, lost dispute, etc.)
See here for more on escrows (https://learn.robosats.com/docs/escrow/) and bonds (https://learn.robosats.com/docs/bonds/)
https://nostrcheck.me/media/public/nostrcheck.me_7887579751190229761686194769.webp

2023-06-06 01:03:20

The "Robot Garage" feature makes managing multiple active robot identities a breeze! 🤖⚡
Hop between robots, add more robot identities, export your Robot Garage as a json summary file, and/or delete your garage and restart from scratch!
Be sure to back up your robot's token 👍
https://void.cat/d/kwBnJJcv6pAPsYzZ9FfQH.png
https://void.cat/d/YXqUtoQq8kBEJBSGnRdhoV.png

2023-06-03 16:44:42

VEXs rabidly advocate for “adoption-friendly” laws that ultimately require collecting user data under the guise of protecting them.. but collection of sensitive user data in the first place is ripe for exploitation and harming users
The simple solution is: avoid VEXs altogether!

2023-05-29 22:18:49

Beep boop 🤖⚡ RoboSats levels up to v0.5.1-alpha! (https://github.com/RoboSats/robosats/releases/tag/v0.5.1-alpha)
Fixes/improvements, notably...
- CLN possible instead of LND (experimental)
- Rework lnproxy feature
- Exact amounts possible in advanced options
Check the release logs for more and contributor credits!

2023-05-28 00:25:21

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Yes! Similarly and equally devious: whoever controls the fiat on/off ramps controls the world!
What good is a censorship resistant and immutable money if normies can't safely and privately exchange with it? P2P is the way 👍

2023-05-27 23:29:44

RoboSats requires ZERO personal info from you to use the platform!
Simply create a fresh avatar identity and provide the fidelity bond (typically 3% of the order amount)!
If you're unsure about anything, reach out to the public Telegram support group: https://t.me/robosats

2023-05-27 17:57:32

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Happy to hear you enjoy this privacy tool!! 🤖💞
Indeed, the squiggle arrow is the swap in/out feature. Using RoboSats, you can make or take an order to swap in or out of Lightning. Swap destinations can include on chain, on chain using Stowaway, Liquid, RBTC, etc.
The aforementioned guide references the swap feature!
Check out our documentation for more info on P2P swaps! https://learn.robosats.com/docs/swaps/

2023-05-27 12:55:52

RoboSats on nostr has been a little quiet ... Sorry about that!! ICYMI there's an amazing guide created by qna@bitcoiner.chat that simply and eloquently explains how to use RoboSats!!
Aptly named: "RoboSats 101" 🤖⚡
Check it out: https://bitcoiner.guide/robosats
And if you happen to like the service, consider sharing your experience about it with others! It helps build P2P liquidity 💪

2023-04-08 16:59:09

Looking for Dev 🔭👀🔎
https://github.com/users/Reckless-Satoshi/projects/2/views/5?pane=issue&itemId=10092120
⚡600K⚡ sat reward: create generic TX templates to implement new trade mode for full on chain escrow! This allows larger trades and fully trustless pipeline (zero custodial risk) compared to LN escrow. And sell sats directly on chain with RoboSats!! 😎
This feature can be potentially useful for other platforms like Peach and Hodl Hodl.
A joint solution has benefits, e.g., higher security/scrutiny, lower dev cost, higher anonymity set for unlocking scripts, etc.
Experienced help would be very appreciated!!
https://nostrcheck.me/media/public/nostrcheck.me_1822622355876925081680973140.jpg

2023-04-07 18:45:46

Gain privacy on RoboSats when receiving LN payments by using the built-in lnproxy server ↬ tool under the "advanced options"
Or, just paste your invoice into https://lnproxy.org and use the "wrapped" invoice it generates instead of your original one! Easy! ⚡
https://nostr.build/i/nostr.build_033b603cd3f14185a0a4b189014923ab9c94dc0c07ed3868b5e9b526fd6ba04d.png
https://nostr.build/i/nostr.build_77f383083ab41bfcc562861bb69c495556b22489af4c7b784ae35de5313219ad.jpg

2023-03-19 12:40:46

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Hello!! Correct, the fidelity bond is a small deposit that the user "locks" which will become unlocked after the trade is completed. By default, the bond is 3% of the total trade amount. Check out our docs: https://learn.robosats.com/docs/bonds
Important to understand that the bond (hold invoice) does not leave your Lightning wallet! But some LN wallets play nicer with RoboSats than others. It's good to refer to the wallet compatibility table and avoid future headaches (like avoiding Muun): https://learn.robosats.com/docs/wallets/

2023-03-16 12:06:45

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#[1] On RoboSats, no one knows who are you (or what you're doing XD)

2023-03-14 12:32:37

Running bitcoin