> Can you give a comparison of supernet, joinmarket, samourai whirlpool, wabisabi of wasabi
By "supernet" I assume you mean Emessbee
The advantages of Emessbee are:
- there is no coordinator, so there is no one to shut down or "leave country X"
- due to no coordinator, there is no coordinator fee, so Emessbee is cheaper than alternative coinjoin implementations (except joinmarket, which pays you to coinjoin)
Drawbacks compared to Wasabi:
Wasabi has no toxic change, Emessbee does
Drawbacks compared to Samourai:
In Samourai you only pay for your first coinjoin, the other ones are free (for you). In Emessbee you pay for every coinjoin, so over time it's more expensive than Samourai
Drawbacks compared to Joinmarket:
Joinmarket pays you to coinjoin, Emessbee does not
> And whether your protocol is decentralised enough with no toxic changes
Emessbee does have toxic change
Also worth pointing out: Emessbee is not complete coinjoin software and is not ready for use on mainnet. It only demonstrates that doing a coinjoin without a coordinator is feasible and has significant benefits. IMO the other coinjoin implementations are better than Emessbee (because they are actually ready to use right now) and you should use those, not Emessbee. But I do think it would be good if the other coinjoin implementations "upgraded" to use Emessbee's coordination protocol instead of using a coordinator.
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2024-05-29 10:22:58
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