i will admit that just because we had an imperfect revolution doesnt mean the goals that our founding fathers aspired to achieve werent exactly as radical then as they are now. the point of the constitution was to create a radical reform project for the following century of free laborers, including the endentured servants & slaves, to create a non centralized nation state akin to a yeoman farmer republic in jefferson's case & a hamilton aspired to use patronage in the absense of republican adhesives to foster free trade & create a strong european nation state & expand an empire of liberty. none of them sought out the deliberate goal to oppress people because in the former he wanted to expand self governance & the latter wanted free laborers.
the point of establishing the US was percisely because the US thought that since there was so much violence & disposession while under british rule, that if the founding fathers created their own country, the violence & fight over land would go away & the natives could be civilized & become yeoman farmers or industrial laborers.
for instance, this view is reflected by the views of our jefferson, he believed that property was transformative & added stock to the existing things by not enfringing on private property rights, & thought that natives could spurn the division of labor, maintain gainful employment, accumulate property, & finally reach the property qualifications to vote.
So then this notion of private property was actually quite emancipatory at the time, obviously in contrast to the European idea that there was only so much finite land and territory that needed to be divided and redivided amongst the great powers, that would then be passed on to their family, alongside political titles, stock dividends, interest payments on their bonds, royalties on their land and mineral holdings, rents on their properties, control over the banks, factories, industries, and media, to exert political capital and become secretaries of state, CIA directors, filter out candidates suitable for presidency in the money primaries, and making the world safe for the fortune 500 by patron states installing military dictatorships over client states to beat workers who get out of line and rolling back vocational safety laws, minimum wage laws, environmental protections, labor and collective bargaining laws, consumer protections, and child labor laws to suck more resources out of client states.
yaddas 🔻
npub1fh…0s57l
2025-01-31 18:07:35
in reply to nevent1q…tdcc
Author Public Key
npub1fhrkvtnym9cs4h3vqe3agxljh7nz3xw6x4z7awzrxyay95eqpsrqe0s57lPublished at
2025-01-31 18:07:35Event JSON
{
"id": "21bf685631a45404ed10f2b560bd2e35029549d2a6c4172519aacf2e37b26e75",
"pubkey": "4dc7662e64d9710ade2c0663d41bf2bfa62899da3545eeb843313a42d3200c06",
"created_at": 1738346855,
"kind": 1,
"tags": [
[
"e",
"d6203a1f5827592a5b16826e4a4e971221993e0258f58ff0c41d070aafa3870c",
"",
"root"
],
[
"e",
"f5deff98d3fd1b0c3819f089dd94969fc8b86f008811175ee762ffb86919b8db",
"",
"reply"
],
[
"p",
"4dc7662e64d9710ade2c0663d41bf2bfa62899da3545eeb843313a42d3200c06"
],
[
"p",
"7e1a8f9865591ffe9d8add063e5bf783a8bc5766afacf1764724271561381121"
]
],
"content": "i will admit that just because we had an imperfect revolution doesnt mean the goals that our founding fathers aspired to achieve werent exactly as radical then as they are now. the point of the constitution was to create a radical reform project for the following century of free laborers, including the endentured servants \u0026 slaves, to create a non centralized nation state akin to a yeoman farmer republic in jefferson's case \u0026 a hamilton aspired to use patronage in the absense of republican adhesives to foster free trade \u0026 create a strong european nation state \u0026 expand an empire of liberty. none of them sought out the deliberate goal to oppress people because in the former he wanted to expand self governance \u0026 the latter wanted free laborers.\n\nthe point of establishing the US was percisely because the US thought that since there was so much violence \u0026 disposession while under british rule, that if the founding fathers created their own country, the violence \u0026 fight over land would go away \u0026 the natives could be civilized \u0026 become yeoman farmers or industrial laborers.\n\nfor instance, this view is reflected by the views of our jefferson, he believed that property was transformative \u0026 added stock to the existing things by not enfringing on private property rights, \u0026 thought that natives could spurn the division of labor, maintain gainful employment, accumulate property, \u0026 finally reach the property qualifications to vote. \n\nSo then this notion of private property was actually quite emancipatory at the time, obviously in contrast to the European idea that there was only so much finite land and territory that needed to be divided and redivided amongst the great powers, that would then be passed on to their family, alongside political titles, stock dividends, interest payments on their bonds, royalties on their land and mineral holdings, rents on their properties, control over the banks, factories, industries, and media, to exert political capital and become secretaries of state, CIA directors, filter out candidates suitable for presidency in the money primaries, and making the world safe for the fortune 500 by patron states installing military dictatorships over client states to beat workers who get out of line and rolling back vocational safety laws, minimum wage laws, environmental protections, labor and collective bargaining laws, consumer protections, and child labor laws to suck more resources out of client states.",
"sig": "bc7a53aaf17b5800709155e4e30714fc03a2de91a6205a0d6d121de0e0848c015f0fe998c30f428d5acf8f354c9f8347e7df8bf063915baafcd1f8457ab67c36"
}