📅 Original date posted:2018-03-20
📝 Original message:
On 9 March 2018 at 05:28, ZmnSCPxj via Lightning-dev <
lightning-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> Good morning Corne,
>
> You mention URLs in your draft. This made me remember about the Web
> Payments Working Group of W3C, https://www.w3.org/Payments/WG/ , of which
> Decker, Christian of Blockstream is a member: https://www.w3.org/2000/09/
> dbwg/details?group=83744&public=1
>
> My understanding is that Christian aims to make Bitcoin payments (and
> possibly Lightning invoice payments?) payable over Web payment protocols
> that W3C group is working on.
>
> Possibly the Web Payments Working Group may provide better perspective on
> various other payment use cases as well as their subtleties, which can help
> inform your considerations in your proposed BOLT12.
>
I'm interested in this effort too.
There's various levels of web payments incubation. Working Group is for
wide deployment in browsers. Interest Group is for ideas that are aimed at
standards track. Community group is aimed at new ideas and specs which can
have stable references, but may be more on the bleeding edge.
I do quite a bit of work with the W3C, so am happy to look over things, as
I'd like to include something similar in my apps. I was thinking I'd have
to make my own ontology, but if it's possible to reuse, that's even better!
>
> Regards,
> ZmnSCPxj
>
>
> Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email.
>
> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
>
> On March 8, 2018 11:19 PM, Corné Plooy via Lightning-dev <
> lightning-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I was thinking of how to use Lightning for various types of payments,
> >
> > and I think it's currently fine for customer/(web)shop type
> >
> > interactions, but it seems a bit inconvenient for other use cases, e.g.
> >
> > salary payments or direct pay-out of cryptocurrency bought on an
> >
> > exchange. I came up with an idea that addresses some of these issues and
> >
> > more (e.g. payee anonymity) by having a direct line of communication
> >
> > between payer and payee instead of BOLT11-style interaction. It's still
> >
> > a bit half-baked, with many details not worked out yet, but you can read
> >
> > it here, and see if you like where this is going:
> >
> > https://github.com/bitonic-cjp/lightning-rfc/blob/
> payment-protocol/12-payment-protocol.md
> >
> > In true permissionless fashion, I have been so bolD to register bolT #12
> >
> > for my idea.
> >
> > Please let me know what you think.
> >
> > kind regards,
> >
> > CJP
> >
> > Lightning-dev mailing list
> >
> > Lightning-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org
> >
> > https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/lightning-dev
>
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