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Original date posted:2014-05-20 ð Original message:> > > > In my opinion, the ...
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Original date posted:2014-05-20
ð Original message:> >
> > In my opinion, the number of full nodes doesn't matter (as long as
> > it's enough to satisfy demand by other nodes).
> >
>
> Correct. Still, a high number of nodes has a few other benefits:
>
> 1) The more nodes there are, the cheaper it should be to run each one,
> given that the bandwidth and CPU for serving the chain will be spread over
> more people.
>
> 2) It makes Bitcoin *seem* bigger, more robust and more decentralised,
> because there are more people uniting to run it. So there's a psychological
> benefit.
>
Psychological benefit vs. effective benefit involves the danger of
destroying trust in the Bitcoin network when there are hard facts for
non-robustness while the node number looks big. Therefore, it may make
sense to establish better metrics.
> Also, we don't have a good way to measure capacity vs demand at the moment.
> Whether we have enough capacity is rather a shot in the dark right now.
>
>
> > What matters is how hard it is to run one.
> >
>
> Which is why I'm interested to learn the reason behind the drop. Is it
> insufficient interest, or is running a node too painful?
>
> For this purpose I'd like to exclude people running Bitcoin Core on laptops
> or non-dedicated desktops. I don't think full nodes will ever make sense
> for consumer wallets again, and I see the bleeding off of those people as
> natural and expected (as Satoshi did). But if someone feels it's too hard
> to run on a cheap server then that'd concern me.
>
In my opinion, the characteristic of being able to make use of
non-dedicated nodes should be regarded as an advantage of the Bitcoin
protocol, and not something to get rid of. Nodes being able to
contribute this way may lead to even more robustness than
decentralization alone, as they can do so without exposing a fixed
address which could be attacked.
Best regards,
Isidor
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Original date posted:2014-05-20\nð Original message:\u003e \u003e\n\u003e \u003e In my opinion, the number of full nodes doesn't matter (as long as\n\u003e \u003e it's enough to satisfy demand by other nodes).\n\u003e \u003e\n\u003e\n\u003e Correct. Still, a high number of nodes has a few other benefits:\n\u003e\n\u003e 1) The more nodes there are, the cheaper it should be to run each one,\n\u003e given that the bandwidth and CPU for serving the chain will be spread over\n\u003e more people.\n\u003e\n\u003e 2) It makes Bitcoin *seem* bigger, more robust and more decentralised,\n\u003e because there are more people uniting to run it. So there's a psychological\n\u003e benefit.\n\u003e\n\nPsychological benefit vs. effective benefit involves the danger of\ndestroying trust in the Bitcoin network when there are hard facts for\nnon-robustness while the node number looks big. Therefore, it may make\nsense to establish better metrics.\n\n\u003e Also, we don't have a good way to measure capacity vs demand at the moment.\n\u003e Whether we have enough capacity is rather a shot in the dark right now.\n\u003e\n\u003e\n\u003e \u003e What matters is how hard it is to run one.\n\u003e \u003e\n\u003e\n\u003e Which is why I'm interested to learn the reason behind the drop. Is it\n\u003e insufficient interest, or is running a node too painful?\n\u003e\n\u003e For this purpose I'd like to exclude people running Bitcoin Core on laptops\n\u003e or non-dedicated desktops. I don't think full nodes will ever make sense\n\u003e for consumer wallets again, and I see the bleeding off of those people as\n\u003e natural and expected (as Satoshi did). But if someone feels it's too hard\n\u003e to run on a cheap server then that'd concern me.\n\u003e\n\nIn my opinion, the characteristic of being able to make use of\nnon-dedicated nodes should be regarded as an advantage of the Bitcoin\nprotocol, and not something to get rid of. Nodes being able to\ncontribute this way may lead to even more robustness than\ndecentralization alone, as they can do so without exposing a fixed\naddress which could be attacked.\n\nBest regards,\n\nIsidor",
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