>90% of the time it's going to be the real destination
You don't know that
By default, surveillance has to deal with this heuristic: the sender doesn't know if the recipient's invoice uses a trampoline node or not. So he doesn't know if the pubkey in the invoice even belongs to the recipient.
In monero, the sender DOES know that information. The pubkey in a monero address always belongs to the recipient.
In monero, surveillance is possible by default
In lightning, it's not
Super Testnet
npub1yx…c399s
2025-04-28 14:44:02
in reply to nevent1q…v89u
Author Public Key
npub1yxp7j36cfqws7yj0hkfu2mx25308u4zua6ud22zglxp98ayhh96s8c399sPublished at
2025-04-28 14:44:02Event JSON
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