Geist on Nostr: Right, the self is subjective and the nonself is unprovable, so real is a quality of ...

Right, the self is subjective and the nonself is unprovable, so real is a quality of the self/subjective, and the objective may or may not conform, but also doesn't care. Though, if something is objective but not real it may be reinterpreted as real at a later date, I would think, and that may come back to the point about subjective experience and degrees of trust. In this sense, we can't know if bitcoin is objective, but it can be real depending on your perspective.