If you send a DM to somebody that has advertised DM relays, it will use NIP-17. Otherwise it will use NIP-04 as a fallback. You can read DMs using both standards.
I'm not going to change this anytime soon. NIP-04 isn't "broken", it is just not as good as NIP-17.
People should understand that nostr and it's various NIP standards are new things that aren't perfect things and if you want state-of-the-art privacy or state-of-the-art security, we simply don't have it here. We only have state-of-the-art decentralization, which yields a less-than-state-of-the-art censorship resistance.
If all the big clients implement NIP-17, then I will remove NIP-04.
Mike Dilger ☑️ /
npub1ac…9p35c
2025-03-25 01:42:14
in reply to nevent1q…rkyg
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2025-03-25 01:42:14Event JSON
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