📅 Original date posted:2022-04-27
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>
>
> Have you taken a look at my proposal
> <https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2022-March/020146.html>;?
> The proposal is, to be clear, *not* "voting" but rather polling that isn't
> programmatically connected to activation. The intention is for people
> (developers) to look at the polling results and make an educated analysis
> of it as far as how it should contribute to consensus gathering.
>
it's cool, and i agree it's somewhat censorship resistant
> Let's say everyone who participates in polling broadcasts it along the
> bitcoin network (a separate network would probably be better, so as to not
> interfere with normal bitcoin, but I digress),
>
right, anyone can then publish a json file with polling aggregates at a
certain block height and anyone can quickly check to see if they are lying
or missing data
> Similar structures could be added to any script configuration to allow
> signing of polls without any significant exposure.
>
rubin's suggestion around tapscript anon voting could help with anonymity
.... all of this is cool ...
but it doesn't address the "what about people who don't know there's a vote
going on" or other the other social issues with "weighted polling" in
general, like how nonexperts can "have a say" when they simply don't
understand the relevant issues. i personally feel like i'm "only a very
little bit up on the issues" and i have more tech knowledge than most
people i know
also, it will just be a poll of "people who pay attention to the dev list
and maybe some irc rooms"
might be worth experimenting with... but unless there's a great ux around
the tooling my guess is that it won't garner a lot of meaningful data:
open source, simple cli, gitian build, installs easily on all platforms,
works well with bitcoind rpc, works with ledger, can import a seed, etc.
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