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Original date posted:2015-06-10
š Original message:The mail list is public, so it's not like the data on it is somehow
sensitive. Sourcefoge is fine, it has a nice web UI where you can browse
the message and sort/order them as you want, etc.
Why would you want to move to a paid solution? And why would you want
users to have to pay per message? This is the worst idea ever from my
point of view. We want to encourage people to join the community, run
full nodes, ask questions, come with solutions, ideas for improvements
and so on. Everyone should read and write and contribute as much as
possible with ideas in debates. You never know who can have bright ideas
in some contexts.
Bottom line is so far sourceforge handles the mail lists just fine. I
don't see a single advantage another mail list provider / system could
offer, except some headache and extra work for migration. The software
distribution via sourcefoge was cancelled for obvious reasons which I
fully understand and agree to, but it has nothing to do with the mail
lists. We have way more important things to brainstorm about.
On 6/10/2015 7:46 PM, Andy Schroder wrote:
> Regarding changing the e-mail list provider. Is anyone interested in
> sponsoring it? There are non-free options, but it may be difficult to
> always ensure the fee is being paid to the provider. I think finding an
> agreeable free solution may have been the issue before? I've also
> thought of trying to make a pay per message or byte solution (and this
> cost could be dynamic based upon the number of current mailing list
> subscribers). This could solve the who pays problem (the sender pays),
> as well as motivate people to be more concise and clear with their
> messages, and at the same time limit spam.
>
>
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Andy Schroder
>
> On 06/10/2015 05:35 AM, Wladimir J. van der Laan wrote:
>> On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 10:25:12AM +0200, xor wrote:
>>> http://www.howtogeek.com/218764/warning-don%E2%80%99t-download-software-from-sourceforge-if-you-can-help-it/
>> All our downloads (even old ones) have recently been deleted from sourceforge, for this reason. They haven't been mentioned in Bitcon Core release announcements for a long time.
>>
>> No opinion on the mailing list. Though I think it's less urgent. The issue of moving the mailinglist has come up before a few times and people can't agree where to move to.
>>
>> Wladimir
>>
>>
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Original date posted:2015-06-10\nš Original message:The mail list is public, so it's not like the data on it is somehow\nsensitive. Sourcefoge is fine, it has a nice web UI where you can browse\nthe message and sort/order them as you want, etc.\n\nWhy would you want to move to a paid solution? And why would you want\nusers to have to pay per message? This is the worst idea ever from my\npoint of view. We want to encourage people to join the community, run\nfull nodes, ask questions, come with solutions, ideas for improvements\nand so on. Everyone should read and write and contribute as much as\npossible with ideas in debates. You never know who can have bright ideas\nin some contexts.\n\nBottom line is so far sourceforge handles the mail lists just fine. I\ndon't see a single advantage another mail list provider / system could\noffer, except some headache and extra work for migration. The software\ndistribution via sourcefoge was cancelled for obvious reasons which I\nfully understand and agree to, but it has nothing to do with the mail\nlists. We have way more important things to brainstorm about.\n\nOn 6/10/2015 7:46 PM, Andy Schroder wrote:\n\u003e Regarding changing the e-mail list provider. Is anyone interested in \n\u003e sponsoring it? There are non-free options, but it may be difficult to \n\u003e always ensure the fee is being paid to the provider. I think finding an \n\u003e agreeable free solution may have been the issue before? I've also \n\u003e thought of trying to make a pay per message or byte solution (and this \n\u003e cost could be dynamic based upon the number of current mailing list \n\u003e subscribers). This could solve the who pays problem (the sender pays), \n\u003e as well as motivate people to be more concise and clear with their \n\u003e messages, and at the same time limit spam.\n\u003e \n\u003e \n\u003e \n\u003e Any thoughts?\n\u003e \n\u003e Andy Schroder\n\u003e \n\u003e On 06/10/2015 05:35 AM, Wladimir J. van der Laan wrote:\n\u003e\u003e On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 10:25:12AM +0200, xor wrote:\n\u003e\u003e\u003e http://www.howtogeek.com/218764/warning-don%E2%80%99t-download-software-from-sourceforge-if-you-can-help-it/\n\u003e\u003e All our downloads (even old ones) have recently been deleted from sourceforge, for this reason. They haven't been mentioned in Bitcon Core release announcements for a long time.\n\u003e\u003e\n\u003e\u003e No opinion on the mailing list. Though I think it's less urgent. The issue of moving the mailinglist has come up before a few times and people can't agree where to move to.\n\u003e\u003e\n\u003e\u003e Wladimir\n\u003e\u003e\n\u003e\u003e\n\u003e\u003e ------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\u003e \n\u003e \n\u003e ------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\u003e _______________________________________________\n\u003e Bitcoin-development mailing list\n\u003e Bitcoin-development at lists.sourceforge.net\n\u003e https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development\n\u003e",
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