📅 Original date posted:2013-10-14
📝 Original message:On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Adam Back <adam at cypherspace.org> wrote:
> Its a live beta, meaning real value, real contracts. But we dont want it to
> be an alt-coin with a floating value exactly, we want it to be bitcoin, but
> the bleeding edge bitcoin so we want to respect the 21 million coin limit,
> and allow coins to move between bitcoin and betacoin with some necessary
> security related restrictions.
>
> There is no mining reward on the betacoin network (can be merge mined for
> security), and the way you opt to move a bitcoin into the betacoin network
> is to mark it as transferred in some UTXO recognized way. It cant be
> reanimated, its dead. (eg spend to a specific recognized invalid address on
> the bitcoin network). In this way its not really a destruction, but a move,
> moving the coin from bitcoin to betacoin network.
>
> This respects the 21 million coin cap, and avoids betacoin bugs flowing back
> and affecting bitcoin security or value-store properties. Users may buy or
> swap betacoin for bitcoin to facilitate moving money back from betacoin to
> bitcoin. However that is market priced so the bitcoin network is security
> insulated from beta. A significant security bug in beta would cause a
> market freeze, until it is rectified.
Quite a neat idea...
> - it avoids mindshare dilution if alternatively an alt-coin with a hit
> missing feature takes off;
FWIW, litecoin devs are open to having litecoin be a bit of a staging
area for new bitcoin features. Obviously there is some self-interest
there -- "we have new cool stuff first!" -- nevertheless, it is a live
test that could demonstrate problems with new features before they
land in bitcoin-stable.
--
Jeff Garzik
Senior Software Engineer and open source evangelist
BitPay, Inc. https://bitpay.com/
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