yeah, it was handy but without any actual vendors to use because the software is still so buggy, yeah, nah
nearly 3 years for nostr and it's still interop hell, lightning is 8 years and still interop hell
i've paid a lot for a bank that lets me move bitcoin in and out and spend it instantly without pre-exchanging it, i'm just gonna go with that for now
hopefully the channel peers who just closed on me closed properly and tomorrow or the next day it's all in my onchain, and i've got the same seed in a blockstream green install and the seed is saved and i'm moving it all back to my own node here running in the room behind me
my assessment of lightning right now is "still not mature enough to trust with any substantial amount of funds"
i'm not really surprised to be honest, i did a lot of work designing a messaging protocol for a tor-like anonymous proxy system https://github.com/indra-labs/indra and i never got to the point of connecting it up to LN using LND, because i already sorta was leery of the code quality and the reliability of the devs building it (roasbeef, mainly) and i know that source routing, which lightning is built on, is very poor at scaling, because of the liveness problem (it has very low availability guarantees)
i wish i could just sit down for a year and refactor and clean up LND, but now i'm building nostr things, and to hell with ecash, so, i'm now an onchain maxi for now, we got a long way before we have a competent noncustodial payment mechanism for bitcoin, which sucks, but this is reality
mleku
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2025-04-20 16:36:10
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