pipe on Nostr: This is really powerful, rhetorically, because it means you assume there is a reason, ...

This is really powerful, rhetorically, because it means you assume there is a reason, that the reason is based upon some goal or incentive, and that you just have to figure out what that is and offer a more-appealing alternative or a better argument, or be humble enough to consider yourself beaten.

The last outcome is not the "win", but it at least gives you a sense of closure and keeps the world from seeming diaordered.