đź“… Original date posted:2015-08-19
đź“ť Original message:On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 4:51 PM, Theo Chino via bitcoin-dev <
bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> And this is why I love Bitcoin, politics + technical = all in one.
>
If you think developers do not talk politics go read LKML... Politics are
inevitable.
I think the "I don't know enough to code (Bitcoin) but I think that"
belongs somewhere else (This is the -dev list).
>
> Regards,
> Theo Chino
> https://www.facebook.com/groups/557495624389384 (politics in NYS about
> bitcoin.)
> http://frenchmorning.com/en/2014/08/18/french-robin-hood-bitcoin-new-york
>
> On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 5:19 PM, Hector Chu via bitcoin-dev <
> bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>
>> Haha. Reminds me of when I asked Gavin earlier this year about whether
>> he cared about politics and he replied that he only cared about and
>> was responsible for the technicals. Little did he know he would
>> unwittingly become the technical enabler for Mike's political
>> shenanigans.
>>
>> On 19 August 2015 at 21:19, Eric Lombrozo via bitcoin-dev
>> <bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>> > Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being
>> governed
>> > by those who are dumber.
>> > - Plato
>> >
>> > On Aug 19, 2015, at 1:11 PM, Eric Lombrozo <elombrozo at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Alex,
>> >
>> > With all due respect, right now the biggest challenge facing Bitcoin is
>> not
>> > technical but political. I would love to see this list go back to
>> technical
>> > discussions, but unfortunately, until this political stuff is resolved,
>> even
>> > technical discussion is purely philosophical as there’s little chance of
>> > actually making good progress on consensus…which in a space where
>> everything
>> > depends on consensus pretty much makes everything else moot.
>> >
>> > On Aug 19, 2015, at 1:08 PM, Alex Morcos via bitcoin-dev
>> > <bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > This is a message that I wrote and had hoped that all the core devs
>> would
>> > sign on to, but I failed to finish organizing it. So I'll just say it
>> from
>> > myself.
>> >
>> > There has been a valuable discussion over the last several months
>> regarding
>> > a hard fork with respect to block size. However the sheer volume of
>> email
>> > and proportion of discussion that is more philosophical than technical
>> has
>> > rendered this list almost unusable for its primary purpose of technical
>> > discussion related to Bitcoin development. Many of us share the blame
>> for
>> > letting the discourse run off topic to such a degree, and we hope that
>> an
>> > appeal for individual self restraint will allow this list to return to a
>> > higher signal-to-noise ratio.
>> > -Please consider the degree to which any email you send is related to
>> > technical development before sending it.
>> > -Please consider how many emails you are sending to this list regarding
>> the
>> > same topic.
>> > This list is not appropriate for an endless back and forth debate on the
>> > philosophical underpinnings of Bitcoin. Although such a debate may be
>> > worthwhile it should be taken to another forum for discussion. Every
>> email
>> > you send is received by hundreds of developers who value their time as
>> much
>> > as you value yours. If your intended audience isn't really the
>> majority of
>> > them, perhaps private communication would be more appropriate.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Alex
>> >
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>> > bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org
>> > https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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Reminds me of when I asked Gavin earlier this year about whether\n\u003e\u003e he cared about politics and he replied that he only cared about and\n\u003e\u003e was responsible for the technicals. Little did he know he would\n\u003e\u003e unwittingly become the technical enabler for Mike's political\n\u003e\u003e shenanigans.\n\u003e\u003e\n\u003e\u003e On 19 August 2015 at 21:19, Eric Lombrozo via bitcoin-dev\n\u003e\u003e \u003cbitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org\u003e wrote:\n\u003e\u003e \u003e Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being\n\u003e\u003e governed\n\u003e\u003e \u003e by those who are dumber.\n\u003e\u003e \u003e - Plato\n\u003e\u003e \u003e\n\u003e\u003e \u003e On Aug 19, 2015, at 1:11 PM, Eric Lombrozo \u003celombrozo at gmail.com\u003e wrote:\n\u003e\u003e \u003e\n\u003e\u003e \u003e Alex,\n\u003e\u003e \u003e\n\u003e\u003e \u003e With all due respect, right now the biggest challenge facing Bitcoin is\n\u003e\u003e not\n\u003e\u003e \u003e technical but political. I would love to see this list go back to\n\u003e\u003e technical\n\u003e\u003e \u003e discussions, but unfortunately, until this political stuff is resolved,\n\u003e\u003e even\n\u003e\u003e \u003e technical discussion is purely philosophical as there’s little chance of\n\u003e\u003e \u003e actually making good progress on consensus…which in a space where\n\u003e\u003e everything\n\u003e\u003e \u003e depends on consensus pretty much makes everything else moot.\n\u003e\u003e \u003e\n\u003e\u003e \u003e On Aug 19, 2015, at 1:08 PM, Alex Morcos via bitcoin-dev\n\u003e\u003e \u003e \u003cbitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org\u003e wrote:\n\u003e\u003e \u003e\n\u003e\u003e \u003e This is a message that I wrote and had hoped that all the core devs\n\u003e\u003e would\n\u003e\u003e \u003e sign on to, but I failed to finish organizing it. So I'll just say it\n\u003e\u003e from\n\u003e\u003e \u003e myself.\n\u003e\u003e \u003e\n\u003e\u003e \u003e There has been a valuable discussion over the last several months\n\u003e\u003e regarding\n\u003e\u003e \u003e a hard fork with respect to block size. However the sheer volume of\n\u003e\u003e email\n\u003e\u003e \u003e and proportion of discussion that is more philosophical than technical\n\u003e\u003e has\n\u003e\u003e \u003e rendered this list almost unusable for its primary purpose of technical\n\u003e\u003e \u003e discussion related to Bitcoin development. Many of us share the blame\n\u003e\u003e for\n\u003e\u003e \u003e letting the discourse run off topic to such a degree, and we hope that\n\u003e\u003e an\n\u003e\u003e \u003e appeal for individual self restraint will allow this list to return to a\n\u003e\u003e \u003e higher signal-to-noise ratio.\n\u003e\u003e \u003e -Please consider the degree to which any email you send is related to\n\u003e\u003e \u003e technical development before sending it.\n\u003e\u003e \u003e -Please consider how many emails you are sending to this list regarding\n\u003e\u003e the\n\u003e\u003e \u003e same topic.\n\u003e\u003e \u003e This list is not appropriate for an endless back and forth debate on the\n\u003e\u003e \u003e philosophical underpinnings of Bitcoin. Although such a debate may be\n\u003e\u003e \u003e worthwhile it should be taken to another forum for discussion. 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