you still have to create your own onchain transaction to fund your own channel. blocks don't have enough room for everyone to do that. if all the monero and ethereum users became refugees like what fiatjaf wants, only a tiny fraction of them would be able to use lightning non-custodially.
I'm getting really sick of this argument.
>yeah you don't really have to use a custodial wallet, just wait in line for a blind auction after you check the fee chart and hope that 10,000 people don't want to do it at the same time as you
yeah no thanks
goatmeal /
npub1g0…7gqpz
2024-03-09 20:07:55
in reply to nevent1q…9laj
Author Public Key
npub1g0atme30l6s65rw6ulq2cqahq9lzmpj0sejhsjcqh0azlyg5cp4qf7gqpzPublished at
2024-03-09 20:07:55Event JSON
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