Rusty Russell [ARCHIVE] on Nostr: 📅 Original date posted:2018-02-07 📝 Original message: Olaoluwa Osuntokun ...
📅 Original date posted:2018-02-07
📝 Original message:
Olaoluwa Osuntokun <laolu32 at gmail.com> writes:
> Hi Y'all,
>
> A common question I've seen concerning Lightning is: "I have five $2
> channels, is it possible for me to *atomically* send $6 to fulfill a
> payment?". The answer to this question is "yes", provided that the receiver
This is awesome! I'm kicking myself for not proposing it :)
Unfortunately, your proposal defines a way to make multipath donations,
not multipath payments :(
In other words, you've lost proof of payment, which IMHO is critical.
Fortunately, this can be fairly trivially fixed when we go to scriptless
scripts or other equivalent decorrelation mechanism, when I think this
mechanism becomes extremely powerful.
> - Potential fee savings for larger payments, contingent on there being a
> super-linear component to routed fees. It's possible that with
> modifications to the fee schedule, it's actually *cheaper* to send
> payments over multiple flows rather than one giant flow.
This is a stretch. I'd stick with the increased reliability/privacy
arguments which are overwhelmingly compelling IMHO.
If I have any important feedback on deeper reading (and after a sccond
coffee), I'll send a separate email.
Thanks!
Rusty.
Published at
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