~9 years ago I was really into the work of Donna Haraway, and even got to attend a talk and crash a luncheon she was at. She has repeatedly brought up the work of systems scientist Beth Dempster, who addressed the closed, indepedent nature of Maturana and Varela's concept of autopoietic systems, and proposed an interdepence-network type expansion of them called "sympoeietic systems" https://web.archive.org/web/20210214033415/https://drago.intecca.uned.es/download/d3d3LmludGVjY2EudW5lZC5lcw==_230879_1484148400_10.1.1.582.1177.pdf [the only free pdf I can find is all highlighted, sry]
It emphasizes how change within systems, like organisms, almost always happens through interactions, as opposed to a more exclusively internal self-emergence in autopoeitic systems. This network of interacting systems can itself be thought of as a system itself.
It got to be a popular concept with humanities and critical theory scholars, but it seems largely unknown in the sciences. It lacks "formalization," but seems totally ammenable to it. There are already formal concepts of interaction, such as transfer entropy, mutual info, and interdependent networks https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-3-319-03518-5
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