📅 Original date posted:2014-04-16
📝 Original message:On 4/16/2014 5:10 PM, Laszlo Hanyecz wrote:
> I think a warning like this is inappropriate.
>
> There are many reasons to use an out of date operating system and high level applications like wallets need not concern themselves with the rest of the system. Maybe the wallet can scan your browser cache and tell you to stop visiting somesite.com too?
>
> It just sounds like some kind of behavior modification that's being discussed here.. not-so-subtly suggesting that users shell out money for a newer version of the operating system, just to use their bitcoin wallets in a 'blessed' configuration. This actually sounds very similar to what happens with Apple iPhones.. they somehow manage to 'invalidate' the charging cables and accessories with every major software version. One day an accessory is working fine, then after the update users get a behavior modification nag every time they use it, urging them to buy a new one. Along these same lines, might as well put a warning about the registry keys needing to be cleaned, and maybe a 'shock the money' banner[1].
>
> You guys all know how it works with financial software - there are many organizations using decades old software (and hardware) because they know its shortcomings, they've taken care of them in a way that works them, and they don't want to start all over just for the sake of having the newest version.
>
> -Laszlo
>
> [1] http://www.buzzfeed.com/adobe/obnoxious-banner-ads-that-everyone-remembers
>
>
> On Apr 16, 2014, at 8:42 PM, Roy Badami <roy at gnomon.org.uk> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 05:20:41PM +0200, Pieter Wuille wrote:
>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 5:12 PM, Kevin <kevinsisco61784 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I think we should get to the bottom of this. Should we assume that xp is
>>>> not secure enough?
>>> Yes.
>> Do we need a similar warning for OS X 10.6? The EOL of that one is
>> *far* less well known than XP (because of Apple's failure to
>> communicate product lifecycles).
>>
>> roy
>>
>>
>>>> What is this warning?
>>> Windows XP is no longer maintained. Don't use such a system for
>>> protecting your money.
>>>
>>>> Who is issuing this warning?
>>> Microsoft: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/end-support-help
>>>
>>> The suggestion here is to make Bitcoin Core detect when it's running
>>> on Windows XP, and warn the user (they are likely unaware of the
>>> risks).
>>>
>>> --
>>> Pieter
>>>
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Okay, so how about an autoupdate function which pulls a work around off
the server? Sooner or later, the vulnerabilities must be faced.
--
Kevin
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"content": "📅 Original date posted:2014-04-16\n📝 Original message:On 4/16/2014 5:10 PM, Laszlo Hanyecz wrote:\n\u003e I think a warning like this is inappropriate.\n\u003e\n\u003e There are many reasons to use an out of date operating system and high level applications like wallets need not concern themselves with the rest of the system. Maybe the wallet can scan your browser cache and tell you to stop visiting somesite.com too?\n\u003e\n\u003e It just sounds like some kind of behavior modification that's being discussed here.. not-so-subtly suggesting that users shell out money for a newer version of the operating system, just to use their bitcoin wallets in a 'blessed' configuration. This actually sounds very similar to what happens with Apple iPhones.. they somehow manage to 'invalidate' the charging cables and accessories with every major software version. One day an accessory is working fine, then after the update users get a behavior modification nag every time they use it, urging them to buy a new one. Along these same lines, might as well put a warning about the registry keys needing to be cleaned, and maybe a 'shock the money' banner[1].\n\u003e\n\u003e You guys all know how it works with financial software - there are many organizations using decades old software (and hardware) because they know its shortcomings, they've taken care of them in a way that works them, and they don't want to start all over just for the sake of having the newest version.\n\u003e\n\u003e -Laszlo\n\u003e\n\u003e [1] http://www.buzzfeed.com/adobe/obnoxious-banner-ads-that-everyone-remembers\n\u003e\n\u003e\n\u003e On Apr 16, 2014, at 8:42 PM, Roy Badami \u003croy at gnomon.org.uk\u003e wrote:\n\u003e\n\u003e\u003e On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 05:20:41PM +0200, Pieter Wuille wrote:\n\u003e\u003e\u003e On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 5:12 PM, Kevin \u003ckevinsisco61784 at gmail.com\u003e wrote:\n\u003e\u003e\u003e\u003e I think we should get to the bottom of this. Should we assume that xp is\n\u003e\u003e\u003e\u003e not secure enough?\n\u003e\u003e\u003e Yes.\n\u003e\u003e Do we need a similar warning for OS X 10.6? The EOL of that one is\n\u003e\u003e *far* less well known than XP (because of Apple's failure to\n\u003e\u003e communicate product lifecycles).\n\u003e\u003e\n\u003e\u003e roy\n\u003e\u003e\n\u003e\u003e\n\u003e\u003e\u003e\u003e What is this warning?\n\u003e\u003e\u003e Windows XP is no longer maintained. Don't use such a system for\n\u003e\u003e\u003e protecting your money.\n\u003e\u003e\u003e\n\u003e\u003e\u003e\u003e Who is issuing this warning?\n\u003e\u003e\u003e Microsoft: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/end-support-help\n\u003e\u003e\u003e\n\u003e\u003e\u003e The suggestion here is to make Bitcoin Core detect when it's running\n\u003e\u003e\u003e on Windows XP, and warn the user (they are likely unaware of the\n\u003e\u003e\u003e risks).\n\u003e\u003e\u003e\n\u003e\u003e\u003e -- \n\u003e\u003e\u003e Pieter\n\u003e\u003e\u003e\n\u003e\u003e\u003e ------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\u003e\u003e\u003e Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book\n\u003e\u003e\u003e \"Graph Databases\" is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their\n\u003e\u003e\u003e applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field,\n\u003e\u003e\u003e this first edition is now available. Download your free book today!\n\u003e\u003e\u003e http://p.sf.net/sfu/NeoTech\n\u003e\u003e\u003e _______________________________________________\n\u003e\u003e\u003e Bitcoin-development mailing list\n\u003e\u003e\u003e Bitcoin-development at lists.sourceforge.net\n\u003e\u003e\u003e https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development\n\u003e\u003e\u003e\n\u003e\u003e ------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\u003e\u003e Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book\n\u003e\u003e \"Graph Databases\" is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their\n\u003e\u003e applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field,\n\u003e\u003e this first edition is now available. Download your free book today!\n\u003e\u003e http://p.sf.net/sfu/NeoTech\n\u003e\u003e _______________________________________________\n\u003e\u003e Bitcoin-development mailing list\n\u003e\u003e Bitcoin-development at lists.sourceforge.net\n\u003e\u003e https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development\n\u003e\n\u003e ------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\u003e Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book\n\u003e \"Graph Databases\" is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their\n\u003e applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field,\n\u003e this first edition is now available. Download your free book today!\n\u003e http://p.sf.net/sfu/NeoTech\n\u003e _______________________________________________\n\u003e Bitcoin-development mailing list\n\u003e Bitcoin-development at lists.sourceforge.net\n\u003e https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development\nOkay, so how about an autoupdate function which pulls a work around off \nthe server? Sooner or later, the vulnerabilities must be faced.\n\n\n-- \nKevin",
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