📅 Original date posted:2017-05-03
📝 Original message:I feel like this would be pointless as the vast majority of users would
likely download the blockchain from a node that was not enforcing a tip
requirement as it would seem like unnecessary cost as in protocols such as
BitTorrent there is no such tips in sharing files and the blockchain
distribution is in eccense the same thing. However perhaps I am
underestimating the generosity of node operators but I feel that adding a
cost to the blockchain (assuming that all users add a tip requirement)
would lead to centralisation.
On Wed, 3 May 2017, 22:21 Erik Aronesty via bitcoin-dev, <
bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> IDEA:
>
> - Full nodes advertise a bitcoin address. Users that need to download
> the block chain from that node can be encouraged to send a tip to the peers
> that served them (by % served). Recommended tip of 10mbit should be fine.
>
> - A full nodes can *require* a tip to download the blockchain. If they
> do, users that don't specify a tip cannot use them.
>
> CONS:
>
> For some people, this may represent a barrier to hosting their own full
> node. After all, if you have to pay $15 just to get a copy of the
> blockchain, that just adds to the already expensive prospect of hosting a
> full node.
>
> PROS:
>
> As long as you manage to stay online, you should get your money back and
> more. This is the an incentive for quality, long term hosting.
>
> In the long term, this should cause stable nodes to stick around longer.
> It also discourages "installation spam" attacks on the network.
>
> Fees for other node operations can be considered if this is successful.
>
>
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