📅 Original date posted:2021-10-15
📝 Original message:
On Thu, Oct 14, 2021 at 09:48:27AM +0200, Joost Jager wrote:
> So how would things work out with a combination of both of the
> proposals described in this mail? First we make probing free (free as
> in no liquidity locked up) and then we'll require senders to pay for
> failed payment attempts too. Failed payment attempts after a
> successful probe should be extremely rate, so doesn't this fix the ux
> issue with upfront fees?
Why couldn't a malicious routing node (or group of colluding routing
nodes) succeed the probe and then fail the payment in order to collect
the failed payment fee?
Owen Gunden [ARCHIVE] /
npub130…hyp4t
2023-06-09 13:04:17
in reply to nevent1q…fkvm
Author Public Key
npub130jddflllc905dlmj0pks9j6fdtld9eu0pql9gm86dxts7whrvxq5hyp4tPublished at
2023-06-09 13:04:17Event JSON
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