📅 Original date posted:2013-10-27
📝 Original message:Yeah, something like HTTP would work well.
I'm really looking forward to this. Currently bitcoinj gets a small but
steady stream of bug reports of the form "my transaction did not
propagate". It's flaky because the library picks one peer to send the
transaction to, and then watches it propagate across the network. But if
that selected peer refuses the tx for whatever reason, that propagation
never comes, and there's currently no timeout to make it retry with a
different node. The transactions as created usually look fine, so it's not
clear to me why some nodes would accept it others wouldn't given the
absence of double spends, and there's no way to debug and find out :(
On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 6:32 AM, kjj <bitcoin-devel at jerviss.org> wrote:
> The HTTP status code system seems to work well enough, and seems to give
> the best of both worlds. A 3 digit numeric code that is
> machine-readable, and a freeform text note for humans.
>
> The clever part about that system was in realizing that the numeric
> codes didn't need to account for every possible error. They just need to
> give the other node the most useful information, like "try that again
> later, I'm having a temporary problem" vs. "That is just plain wrong and
> it will still be wrong next time too, so don't bother to retry".
>
> We can leave it to the humans to puzzle out the meaning of "403: values
> of txid gives rise to dom!"
>
> Gavin wrote:
> >
> > On Oct 26, 2013, at 11:01 AM, Jean-Paul Kogelman <
> jeanpaulkogelman at me.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Would it make sense to use either fixed length strings or maybe even
> enums?
> > No. Enums or fixed length strings just make it harder to extend, for no
> benefit (bandwidth of 'reject' messages doesn't matter, they will be rare
> and are not relayed).
> >
> >
> >
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