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2024-06-28 07:03:29
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nep on Nostr: was it 8 guns, 10 guns, 16 guns, or 23? first it was 8, then 10, then it was 16, then ...

was it 8 guns, 10 guns, 16 guns, or 23? first it was 8, then 10, then it was 16, then they changed it to 10

> @KTNV Beth Fisher, citing police source, said shooter had 8 guns & 2 platforms set up to shoot from + cameras set up to see police arriving

https://x.com/NormLasVegas/status/914825304740208640 https://archive.is/3OVPJ

> He killed himself as police stormed the room where 10 guns were found."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41466116 https://archive.is/BXcaB

> KTNV, citing police sources, reports that Paddock had 16 guns inside the hotel room, along with two platforms set up to shoot from.

this is the first saved version: https://heavy.com/news/2017/10/stephen-paddock-las-vegas-route-91-mandalay-bay-shooting-shooter-gunman-suspect-photos-motive/ https://archive.is/Lwx8q

"He was found dead inside the hotel room, where 23 guns were later found, after a police SWAT team used an explosive breach to blow open the door and then engaged with him."

this is the second saved version: https://heavy.com/news/2017/10/stephen-paddock-las-vegas-route-91-mandalay-bay-shooting-shooter-gunman-suspect-photos-motive/ https://archive.is/5jOB9

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isis claimed responsibility for attack before and after shooting

"But ISIS has claimed responsibility for the attack through its Amaq propaganda agency and said the shooter, “executed the operation in response to calls to target countries of the coalition,” but did not name Paddock, The Associated Press reports."

https://heavy.com/news/2017/10/stephen-paddock-las-vegas-route-91-mandalay-bay-shooting-shooter-gunman-suspect-photos-motive/ https://archive.is/Lwx8q

"Without providing any evidence to support the claim, the Islamic State group on Monday said the gunman in the mass shooting in Las Vegas was “a soldier” from its ranks who had converted to Islam months ago."

https://apnews.com/a3554c3250644262af3f5b94d57b1def https://archive.is/CD0cf

"Las Vegas has previously been threatened by ISIS, including in a recent video." video attached. video is from https://x.com/AmarAmarasingam/status/914856769435906049



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paddock had a pilot license and two planes years prior

"Other public records show that Paddock had an airmen’s certification. According to the FAA, Paddock was issued the private pilot license on November 17, 2003, and was rated as being able to fly a single-engine airplane and an instrument airplane. He last had a medical examination in February 2008."

http://heavy.com/news/2017/10/stephen-paddock-las-vegas-route-91-mandalay-bay-shooting-shooter-gunman-suspect-photos-motive/ https://archive.is/bzgs1

https://uk.flightaware.com/resources/registration/N5343M https://archive.is/Ndj1o

https://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/photo/000601810.html https://archive.is/Mt1VC

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seems a lot of the people who knew him said he was fairly average, a lot were shocked, but some weren't surprised. his brother and other family commented that they had no idea why he did this. he didn't have a criminal record, even traffic stops.

"Eric Paddock said he knew of five guns his brother kept in his safe but was shocked that a rapid-fire weapon was used in Sunday’s shooting. He said Stephen Paddock didn’t hunt and barely shot his guns, once taking Eric’s children on a skeet-shooting trip paid for by the casinos."

> "We know nothing. If you told me an asteroid fell it would mean the same to me. There's absolutely no sense, no reason he did this," said his brother Eric Paddock. "He's just a guy who played video poker and took cruises and ate burritos at Taco Bell. There's no political affiliation that we know of. There's no religious affiliation that we know of."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/10/02/las-vegas-gunman-liked-to-gamble-listened-to-country-music-lived-quiet-retired-life-before-massacre/ https://archive.is/TgkBC

> "We are in complete shock, bewilderment and horror. We have absolutely no idea how in the world Steve did this. Absolutely no concept," said one relative, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to avoid hurting other relatives. "There was nothing secret or strange about him."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/10/02/las-vegas-gunman-liked-to-gamble-listened-to-country-music-lived-quiet-retired-life-before-massacre/ https://archive.is/TgkBC

> “We are completely dumbfounded,” said a younger brother, Eric Paddock, who broke into tears in front of his suburban Orlando, Fla., home. “We can’t understand what happened.”

https://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-vegas-shooter-what-we-know-20171002-story.html

> "Before Monday, Paddock had been a nonentity to local police. “We didn’t have prior run-ins with him, we didn’t have any traffic stops, we didn’t have any arrests of any kind,” Mesquite Police Officer Quinn Averett said. “It’s a newer home, a newer subdivision, a nice clean home, nothing out of the ordinary.”

> “He was always normal,” said Donald Judy, a former next-door neighbor who said he was struggling to reconcile the friendly conversations about real estate and family with carnage carried out from a hotel room on the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino.

> Paddock’s former brother-in-law, Scott Brunoehler, recalled the gunman in the 1970s and 1980s as a smart, fun-loving person who enjoyed entertaining on his boat at Castaic Lake and Buena Vista Lake in Kern County.
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> “He seemed like a normal, good guy. I don’t remember anything bad back then at all,” said Brunoehler, whose sister, Sharon, married Paddock in 1977. "I'm still in shock."

> For nearly a decade, he owned an apartment complex in the Dallas suburb of Mesquite. Tenant Richard Gehring said Paddock improved the Texas property by checking applicants’ credit and quickly evicting those who didn’t pay.
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> “Some of the rougher people left,” said Gehring, a roadway engineer.
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As he watched television coverage Monday, Gehring said it seemed impossible that the gunman was his mild mannered landlord.
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> “He was just a nice guy, and that was it,” Gehring said. “There’s nothing really that sets him out from anybody else.”

> Donald Judy’s wife, Sharon, who lived next door to Paddock in Florida, said he described himself as a world traveler and "professional gambler by trade" and said he once showed her a picture of himself winning a $20,000 slot-machine jackpot.
"He was friendly all the time," she said.

https://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-vegas-shooter-what-we-know-20171002-story.html https://archive.is/JoLye

> "Steve took care of the people he loved. He helped make me and my family wealthy. He's the reason I was able to retire. This is the Steve we know, we knew. The people he loved and took care of," Eric Paddock said. He also described his brother as "intelligent" and "successful."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/victims-of-las-vegas-shooting-list-names-latest-update/ https://archive.is/GCOaD

> He said he couldn't understand what drove his brother to fire on thousands of concertgoers through two windows on the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay hotel.
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> Eric Paddock said that his brother was not insane or crazy and described him as a highly "intelligent" and "successful" person.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/las-vegas-shooter-brother-speaks-again/ https://archive.is/FWKtQ

> Paddock’s relatives and neighbors said they didn’t know him to be much of a gun owner
> [...]
> Eric Paddock told reporters on Monday that his brother had no religious or political affiliations. “My heart is destroyed, for all these people, but I can’t tell you why Steve did what he did,” he said.
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> “It never occurred to me in any way whatsoever that he was planning violence against anyone,” Danley said in her statement on Wednesday.

https://www.thewrap.com/las-vegas-shooter-everything-know-stephen-paddock/ https://archive.is/CjH33

> "It never occurred to me in any way whatsoever that he was planning violence against anyone," Danley said in the statement.

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/10/05/us/las-vegas-shooting-investigation/index.html https://archive.is/PTWOo

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here is some video evidence of the strobe light or whatever it was on a lower floor

https://x.com/GMA/status/914794945768177664 https://archive.is/n4Ga4

this article describes muzzle flashes but the only flashes coming from the hotel were from a middle floor that may have been a maintenance floor

> The gunman paused and then fired another volley of muzzle flashes from the gold glass casino as more victims fell to the ground while others fled in panic

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/victims-of-las-vegas-shooting-list-names-latest-update/ https://archive.is/GCOaD

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reports of fireworks

> Another witness, Vincent Sager, said he mistook the shots for “fireworks” but quickly realized he was wrong when he saw "someone run by me in blood,”

> Payne told ABC News. "The initial string of gunfire sounded like a small chain of like fireworks, like firecrackers."

https://abcnews.go.com/US/las-vegas-shooting-eyewitness-sounded-thousand-shots/story?id=50225345 https://archive.is/YEqSV

> Monique Dumas from British Columbia, Canada, said she was at the concert, six rows from the stage when she thought she heard a bottle breaking, and then a burst of popping sounds that sounded like fireworks

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/victims-of-las-vegas-shooting-list-names-latest-update/ https://archive.is/GCOaD

> 'I Heard What I Thought Was Fireworks'
>
>PAM SCHNEIDER: I heard what I thought was fireworks, but yet I didn't see anything lighting up the sky. And then it had kind of a strange sound, almost like a helicopter maybe going into, like, a crash or something. It was a - such a strange sound. And then I realized what I was actually hearing was automatic gunfire.

https://www.npr.org/2017/10/02/555046920/-i-heard-what-i-thought-was-fireworks https://archive.is/pHo83

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this video shows important footage of the crowd, and important audio of multiple shooters in the crowd, gunshots coming from many directions. also includes a cop searching the crowd with a flashlight, but not helping anyone. also includes mention of fireworks.

also the following quote:

> Reporter: The shooter was fairly far away?
> Michelle Leonard, Eyewitness: i didn't know that the shooter was far away because it sounded like it was so close, i thought it was in the crowd [...] It sounded like the same weapon.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/las-vegas-shooting-eyewitness-sounded-thousand-shots/story?id=50225345 https://archive.is/YEqSV



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just for posterity, here's the victim list:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/02/us/vegas-victims-names.html https://archive.is/qJzGh

unfortunately there are three versions, all different: https://archive.is/https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/02/us/vegas-victims-names.html

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according to early initial reports the shooting started at 10:08 but in the end said it started 10:05 and ended 10:15 (why?)

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/claudiakoerner/heres-what-happened-the-night-of-the-las-vegas https://archive.is/PnzoT

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does this look like 2000 rounds fired?





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if he really is buying all these guns and bringing them to hotels paddock somewhat seem a gun runner. going to hotels overlooking concerts enjoying the show while selling guns. who knows why they framed him.

> “What we know is Stephen Paddock is a man who spent decades acquiring weapons and ammo, and living a secret life, much of which will never be fully understood,” Las Vegas police Sheriff Joseph Lombardo said on Wednesday.

> Christopher Sullivan, who managers Guns & Guitars in Mesquite, told the New York Times that Paddock bought three guns, a handgun and two rifles, in the last year. Sullivan told the newspaper he passed a routine federal screening. “The man does not have a criminal history,” he said.

https://www.thewrap.com/las-vegas-shooter-everything-know-stephen-paddock/ https://archive.is/CjH33

> Investigators said something may have happened to Paddock between October 2016 and last month that compelled him to purchase more weapons. Paddock bought 33 guns, mostly rifles, during that period, an ATF spokesperson said.

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/10/05/us/las-vegas-shooting-investigation/index.html https://archive.is/PTWOo

> There is still much mystery surrounding Paddock, a 64-year-old retired accountant from Mesquite, Nevada, who liked to gamble in Vegas casinos and had more than 40 guns in two homes and his hotel suite.
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> He said a later search of cases found in the car revealed 50 pounds of Tannerite -- a brand-name product that's marketed as explosive rifle targets.

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/10/05/us/las-vegas-shooting-investigation/index.html https://archive.is/PTWOo

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paddock bought tracer rounds, and another time tried to and the store didn't have them

> The Las Vegas gunman, Stephen Paddock, tried to buy tracer rounds at a gun show in Arizona just ahead of massacre of 58 people [...]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/las-vegas-shooting-stephen-paddock-tracer-rounds-tried-buy-shoot-dark-latest-a7986741.html

> “This was a routine transaction to purchase a routine type of ammunition that is available in many different retail outlets throughout the state of Arizona,” the attorney said. “After that transaction, Doug had absolutely no further contact with Mr. Paddock.”
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> Haig was identified this week as a “person of interest” in the shooting investigation. At the Friday morning news conference, he said he did not believe the tracer ammunition he sold to Paddock was used in the massacre.

dead link https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/shootings/prosecutors-charge-arizona-man-who-sold-ammo-to-las-vegas-shooter/lk

> The Las Vegas gunman, Stephen Paddock, tried to buy tracer rounds at a gun show in Arizona just ahead of massacre of 58 people - which would have let him target his victims in the dark.

https://lasvegassun.com/news/2017/oct/06/official-las-vegas-shooter-bought-1000-tracer-roun/ https://archive.is/14QU9

> A law enforcement official says Las Vegas shooter Stephen Paddock bought 1,000 rounds of tracer ammunition a month ago from a private seller he met at a Phoenix gun show.

https://lasvegassun.com/news/2017/oct/06/official-las-vegas-shooter-bought-1000-tracer-roun/ https://archive.is/14QU9
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