It can be true that US involvement in world politics has blowback effects without it also being true that all modern terrorism is a product of western meddling.
I'm not saying that everything the US does is appropriate, but I am saying it is a fatal naivete to imagine that the rest of the world just reacts to western aggression and has no regional or global ambitions of their own and that those ambitions are interested in promoting individual rights as understood by you or me.
The fact of the matter is that any large enough society is going to come into conflict with other large societies and not for anything more than it's people just trying to live their lives. This is an unavoidable aspect of human existence. The US could remove it's military presence from the world, it could stop all foreign aid, and it would *still* come into some form of global conflict.
Is this the point where people in the US are allowed to morally say "fuck you" to the one's complaining about our behavior? Seriously, at which point are we allowed to say "No, I'm doing this thing I want to do because I'm allowed to, and if you try to stop me, I'm going to defend myself and my friends"?
Because if, in your mind, such a situation can possibly exist, then you're ultimately talking about the US signing bomb shipments.
This is all to say nothing of the fact that some people are, in fact, bad. Bad people deserve rejection and frustration of their goals, which are bad. I am comfortable saying this because I am not a moral relativist.
YTMND
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