leadbyexample on Nostr: Oh, I see, those would be called cantillionaires. While they are actively violating ...

Oh, I see, those would be called cantillionaires.
While they are actively violating personal liberties by abusing state power for their own benefit, they are are an emanation of the state.
As long as enough people will keep believing the superstition that what is illegitimate for an individual to do (expropriation, murder, compulsion) becomes legitimate and just if you are a politician, a soldier, or a judge, the state will maintain its status of religion and all of us will have to bear the consequences.

So I guess the meeting point is that, if your OP was actually referring to cantillionaires, then yes, they do violently extract wealth and we fully agree on the topic.

In this case I was wrong, and you are not, in fact, a socialist :-)