📅 Original date posted:2017-06-07
📝 Original message:On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 5:27 PM Tao Effect <contact at taoeffect.com> wrote:
> Nick,
>
> Please don't spread misinformation. Whatever you think of the DAO hard
> fork, it's a simple fact that the Ethereum ledger was not edited.
>
>
> This sort of email is unhelpful to this conversation, and it certainly
> doesn't help with the perception that Ethereum is nothing but a bunch of
> hypocritical Bankers 2.0.
>
>
> Everyone knows you didn't edit Ethereum Classic, but the the hard fork,
> which was re-branded as Ethereum, was edited.
>
That's not what I was suggesting. My point is that the ledger was never
edited. An 'irregular state change' was added at a specific block height,
but the ledger remains inviolate.
I'm sure I don't have to explain the difference between the ledger and the
state to you, or why it's significant that the ledger wasn't (and can't be,
practically) modified.
-Nick
> - Greg
>
> --
> Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with
> the NSA.
>
> On Jun 7, 2017, at 6:25 AM, Nick Johnson <nick at ethereum.org> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 12:02 AM Gregory Maxwell via bitcoin-dev <
> bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 10:39 PM, Tao Effect via bitcoin-dev
>> <bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>> > I believe the severity of replay attacks is going unvoiced and is not
>> > understood within the bitcoin community because of their lack of
>> experience
>> > with them.
>>
>> Please don't insult our community-- the issues with replay were
>> pointed out by us to Ethereum in advance and were cited specifically
>> in prior hardfork discussions long before Ethereum started editing
>> their ledger for the economic benefit of its centralized
>> administrators.
>
>
> Please don't spread misinformation. Whatever you think of the DAO hard
> fork, it's a simple fact that the Ethereum ledger was not edited.
>
> -Nick Johnson
>
>
>
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