Eric Voskuil [ARCHIVE] on Nostr: 📅 Original date posted:2015-02-22 📝 Original message:One correction inline ...

📅 Original date posted:2015-02-22
📝 Original message:One correction inline below.

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On 02/22/2015 02:39 PM, Eric Voskuil wrote:
> Hi Jan,
>
> This is really nice work.
>
> WRT the Schroder and Schildbach proposal, the generalization of the "r"
> and "payment_url" parameters makes sense, with only the potential
> backward compat issue on payment_url.
>
>> TBIP75 furthermore proposes to include an additional 'h' parameter
>> which would be a hash of the BIP70 payment request, preventing a MITM
>> attack on the Bluetooth channel even if the BIP70 payment request
>> isn't signed. This would have also been my suggestion, although I
>> know that Mike Hearn has raised concerns about this approach. One
>> being, that one needs to finalize the BIP70 payment request at the
>> time the QR code and NFC URI is generated.
>> ...
>> 3) Are there other comments regarding 'h' parameter as per TBIP75?
>
> Yes, this design is problematic from a privacy standpoint. Anyone within
> the rather significant range of the Bluetooth terminal is able to
> capture payment requests and correlate them to people. In other words it
> can be used to automate tainting.
>
> The problem is easily resolved by recognizing that, in the envisioned
> face-to-face trade, proximity is the source of trust. Even in the above
> proposal the "h" parameter is trusted because it was obtained by
> proximity to the NFC terminal. The presumption is that this proximity
> produces a private channel.
>
> As such the "tap" should transfer a session key used for symmetric block
> cipher over the Bluetooth channel. This also resolves the issue of
> needing to formulate the payment request before the NFC.
>
> As an aside, in other scenarios, such as an automated dispenser, this
> presumption does not hold. The merchant is not present to guard against
> device tampering. Those scenarios can be secured using BIP70, but cannot
> guarantee privacy.
>
> The other differences I have with the proposal pertain to efficiency,
> not privacy or integrity of the transaction:
>
> The proposed resource name is redundant with any unique identifier for
> the session. For example, the "h" parameter is sufficient. But with the
> establishment of a session key both as I propose above, the parties can
> derive a sufficiently unique public resource name from a hash of the
> key. An additional advantage is that the resource name can be
> fixed-length, simplifying the encoding/decoding.
>
> The MAC address (and resource name) should be encoded using base58. This

The MAC address (and session key) should be encoded using base58. This

> is shorter than base16, is often shorter than base64, better
> standardized and does not require URI encoding, and is generally
> available to implementers.
>
> There is no need for the establishment of two Bluetooth services.
>
> I would change the payment_url recommendation so that the list order
> represents a recommended ordering provided by the terminal for the wallet.
>
> I wrote up my thoughts on these considerations last year and recently
> revised it by adding a section at the end to incorporate the "r" and
> "payment_url" generalizations from Andreas and Andy.
>
> https://github.com/evoskuil/bips/tree/master/docs
>
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>
> On 02/22/2015 11:08 AM, Jan Vornberger wrote:
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> I am working on a Bitcoin point of sale terminal based on a Raspberry Pi, which
>> displays QR codes, but also provides payment requests via NFC. It can optionally
>> receive the sender's transaction via Bluetooth, so if the sender wallet
>> supports it, the sender can be completely offline. Only the terminal needs an
>> internet connection.
>>
>> Typical scenario envisioned: Customer taps their smartphone (or maybe smartwatch
>> in the future) on the NFC pad, confirms the transaction on their phone
>> (or smartwatch) and the transaction completes via Bluetooth and/or the phone's
>> internet connection.
>>
>> You can see a prototype in action here:
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7vKHMoapr8
>>
>> The above demo uses a release version of Schildbach's Bitcoin Wallet, so it
>> works as shown today. However, some parts - especially the Bluetooth stuff - are
>> custom extensions of Schildbach's wallet which are not yet standard.
>>
>> I'm writing this post to document my experience implementing NFC and offline
>> payments and hope to move the discussion forward around standardizing some of
>> this stuff. Andy Schroder's work around his Bitcoin Fluid Dispenser [1,2]
>> follows along the same lines, so his proposed TBIP74 [3] and TBIP75 [4] are
>> relevant here as well.
>>
>>
>> ## NFC vs Bluetooth vs NFC+Bluetooth ##
>>
>> Before I get into the implementation details, a few words for why I decided to
>> go with the combination of NFC and Bluetooth:
>>
>> Doing everything via NFC is an interesting option to keep things simple, but the
>> issue is, that one usually can't maintain the connection while the user confirms
>> the transaction (as they take the device back to press a button or maybe enter a
>> PIN). So there are three options:
>>
>> 1. Do a "double tap": User taps, takes the device back, confirms, then taps
>> again to transmit the transaction. (I think Google Wallet does something like
>> this.)
>>
>> 2. Confirm beforehand: User confirms, then taps and everything can happen in one
>> go. The disadvantage is, that you confirm the transaction before you have seen
>> the details. (I believe Google Wallet can also work this way.)
>>
>> 3. Tap the phone, then establish a Bluetooth connection which allows you to do
>> all necessary communication even if the user takes the device back.
>>
>> I feel that option 3 is the nicest UX, so that is what I am focusing on right
>> now, but there are pros and cons to all options. One disadvantage of option 3 in
>> practice is, that many users - in my experience - have Bluetooth turned off, so
>> it can result in additional UI dialogs popping up, asking the user to turn on
>> Bluetooth.
>>
>> Regarding doing everything via Bluetooth or maybe BLE: I have been following the
>> work that Airbitz has done around that, but personally I prefer the NFC
>> interaction of "I touch what I want to pay" rather than "a payment request comes
>> to me through the air and I figure out whether it is meant for me/is legitimate".
>>
>>
>> ## NFC data formats ##
>>
>> A bit of background for those who are not that familiar with NFC: Most Bitcoin
>> wallets with NFC support make use of NDEF (NFC Data Exchange Format) as far as I
>> am aware (with CoinBlesk being an exception, which uses host-based card
>> emulation, if I understand it correctly). NDEF defines a number of record types,
>> among them 'URI' and 'Mime Type'.
>>
>> A common way of using NFC with Bitcoin is to create a URI record that contains a
>> Bitcoin URI. Beyond that Schildbach's wallet (and maybe others?) also support
>> the mime type record, which is then set to 'application/bitcoin-paymentrequest'
>> and the rest of the NFC data is a complete BIP70 payment request.
>>
>>
>> ## Implementation ##
>>
>> To structure the discussion a little bit, I have listed a number of scenarios to
>> consider below. Not every possible combination is listed, but it should cover a
>> bit of everything.
>>
>> Scenarios:
>>
>> 1) Scan QR code, transmit transaction via Bitcoin network
>> Example QR code: bitcoin:1asdf...?amount=42
>>
>> 2) Touch NFC pad, transmit transaction via Bitcoin network
>> Example NFC URI: bitcoin:1asdf...?amount=42
>>
>> 3) Scan QR code, fetch BIP70 details via HTTP, post transaction via HTTP
>> Example QR code: bitcoin:1asdf...?amount=42&r=https://example.org/bip70paymentrequest
>>
>> 4) Touch NFC pad, fetch BIP70 details via HTTP, post transaction via HTTP
>> Example NFC URI: bitcoin:1asdf...?amount=42&r=https://example.org/bip70paymentrequest
>>
>> 5) Touch NFC pad, receive BIP70 details directly, post transaction via HTTP
>> Example NFC MIME record: application/bitcoin-paymentrequest + BIP70 payment request
>>
>> 6) Scan QR code, fetch BIP70 details via Bluetooth, post transaction via Bluetooth
>> Example QR code: bitcoin:1asdf...?amount=42&bt=1234567890AB
>> Payment request has 'payment_url' set to 'bt:1234567890AB'
>>
>> 7) Touch NFC pad, fetch BIP70 details via Bluetooth, post transaction via Bluetooth
>> Example NFC URI: bitcoin:1asdf...?amount=42&bt=1234567890AB
>> Payment request has 'payment_url' set to 'bt:1234567890AB'
>>
>> Scenarios 1 and 2 are basically the 'legacy'/pre-BIP70 approach and I am just
>> listing them here for comparison. Scenario 3 is what is often in use now, for
>> example when using a checkout screen by BitPay or Coinbase.
>>
>> I played around with both scenarios 4 and 5, trying to decide whether I should
>> use an NFC URI record or already provide the complete BIP70 payment request via
>> NFC.
>>
>> My experience here has been, that the latter was fairly fragile in my setup
>> (Raspberry Pi, NFC dongle from a company called Sensor ID, using nfcpy). I tried
>> with signed payment requests that were around 4k to 5k and the transfer would
>> often not complete if I didn't hold the phone perfectly in place. So I quickly
>> switched to using the NFC URI record instead and have the phone fetch the BIP70
>> payment request via Bluetooth afterwards. Using this approach the amount of data
>> is small enough that it's usually 'all or nothing' and that seems more robust to
>> me.
>>
>> That said, I continue to have problems with the NFC stack that I'm using, so it
>> might just be my NFC setup that is causing these problems. I will probably give
>> the NXP NFC library a try next (which I believe is also the stack that is used
>> by Android). Maybe I have more luck with that approach and could then switch to
>> scenario 5.
>>
>> Scenarios 6 and 7 is what the terminal is doing right now. The 'bt' parameter is
>> the non-standard extension of Andreas' wallet that I was mentioning. TBIP75
>> proposes to change 'bt' into 'r1' as part of a more generic approach of
>> numbering different sources for the BIP70 payment request. I think that is a
>> good idea and would express my vote for this proposal. So the QR code or NFC URI
>> would then look something like this:
>>
>> bitcoin:1asdf...?amount=42&r=https://example.org/bip70&r1=bt:1234567890AB/resource
>>
>> In addition the payment request would need to list additional 'payment_url's. My
>> proposal would be to do something like this:
>>
>> message PaymentDetails {
>> ...
>> optional string payment_url = 6;
>> optional bytes merchant_data = 7;
>> repeated string additional_payment_urls = 8;
>> // ^-- new; to hold things like 'bt:1234567890AB'
>> }
>>
>> TBIP75 proposes to just change 'optional string payment_url' into 'repeated
>> string payment_url'. If this isn't causing any problems (and hopefully not too
>> much confusion?) I guess that would be fine too.
>>
>> In my opinion a wallet should then actually attempt all or multiple of the
>> provided mechanisms in parallel (e.g. try to fetch the BIP70 payment request via
>> both HTTP and Bluetooth) and go with whatever completes first. But that is of
>> course up to each wallet to decide how to handle.
>>
>> TBIP75 furthermore proposes to include an additional 'h' parameter which would
>> be a hash of the BIP70 payment request, preventing a MITM attack on the
>> Bluetooth channel even if the BIP70 payment request isn't signed. This would
>> have also been my suggestion, although I know that Mike Hearn has raised
>> concerns about this approach. One being, that one needs to finalize the BIP70
>> payment request at the time the QR code and NFC URI is generated.
>>
>>
>> ## Questions ##
>>
>> My questions to the list:
>>
>> 1) Do you prefer changing 'optional string payment_url' into 'repeated string
>> payment_url' or would you rather introduce a new field 'additional_payment_urls'?
>>
>> 2) @Andreas: Is the r, r1, r2 mechanism already implemented in Bitcoin Wallet?
>>
>> 3) Are there other comments regarding 'h' parameter as per TBIP75?
>>
>> 4) General comments, advice, feedback?
>>
>> I appreciate your input! :-)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Jan
>>
>> [1] http://andyschroder.com/BitcoinFluidDispenser/
>> [2] https://www.mail-archive.com/bitcoin-development%40lists.sourceforge.net/msg06354.html
>> [3] https://github.com/AndySchroder/bips/blob/master/tbip-0074.mediawiki
>> [4] https://github.com/AndySchroder/bips/blob/master/tbip-0075.mediawiki
>>
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