> If you have this then you have the censorship problems we've seen solved (we don't need Carmen Sandiego clients that try to stealthy find our censored follows). Your follows list(s) can go with you but you do not need to abdegate clever stuff to your client that hides it all from you and asks you to trust it.
I want to follow Steve Bellovin but I don't know where he posts. So I ask several "bootstrap" relays to get his "relay list" (relays that specialize in just storing relay lists). One of them serves it to me (because he sprayed it far and wide). I can now see on his "person" page in my client that he posts at A, B, and C. Ok, now I can manually surf to A, B, or C and see his posts (or in my client you don't have to it just shows up in your general feed... but I don't want to argue that point, it's immaterial).
The client doesn't need to do any clever stuff (gossip is far too complex). It doesn't have to hide this "relay list". It can be right there, an event you can view in raw form if you want. It's pretty simple, but it requires a paradigm shift of spraying our relay lists and clients using them.
Mike Dilger ☑️ /
npub1ac…9p35c
2023-02-03 05:09:27
in reply to nevent1q…m5q5
Author Public Key
npub1acg6thl5psv62405rljzkj8spesceyfz2c32udakc2ak0dmvfeyse9p35cPublished at
2023-02-03 05:09:27Event JSON
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