Carnivore deviations
I've been carnivore for about 30 months
During that time I've experimented with various deviations while losing about 80 pounds & adding muscle.
I was transitioning from low carb / keto, which had lost me 60 pounds before stalling out.
When I first started animal-based I was eating dairy (especially plain yogurt), dark chocolate, nuts and small amounts of fruit. I cut out all vegetables, any remaining starch, and increased my meat intake. I also experimented with various carnivore snacks.
Chocolate - As I increased my focus on meat, I found that my sensitivity to plant toxins quickly increased. With chocolate, I would break out in a face rash after eating it, presumably due to oxalates. I was forced to quickly give up chocolate. I've experimented with "keto" candy quite a bit but gradually moved away from those as well.
Nuts - I don't have much of a craving for nuts, but I do enjoy the taste of some. I did some research and found that only macadamia and walnut have omega ratios I consider acceptable. I occasionally have some unsalted macadamia as a snack, maybe 1/4 cup (60g) every couple months. I don't have any issues with them but also don't enjoy them enough to eat regularly.
Fruit - I seem to get fruit cravings when I eat sausage/canned fish rather than fresh meat. I suspect this is a vitamin C issue. Fruit stalls out my weight loss and increases joint pain. I've recently focused on fresh meat and fruit cravings have gone away.
Dairy - Milk & cream seem to stall out my weight loss. I don't seem to have any difficulty with butter or ghee, and consider them excellent fats, for direct consumption or cooking. There are some dairy products I consider intermediate, like cream cheese & plain yogurt. I'm currently avoiding these but experimenting with unpasteurized cheeses which seems to be the richest animal source of Vitamin K2.
Jerky - It can be tough to find jerky with no seed oil, celery (which I found gives me issues), sugar, soy etc. I suspect jerky has the same vitamin C issue as canned fish & precooked sausage.
Biltong - No complaints. Very worthwhile option. Can be ordered online at reasonable cost or purchased at Whole Foods for jerky-like (ie steep) prices. I haven't felt the desire to have any in a while. Might have a vitamin C issue.
Summer sausage - store-bought summer sausage tends to have some combination of pork, sugar, celery, soy and nitrates. I've certainly eaten my share but I get some from grassland beef online that doesn't have any of this crap. When I have that in stock it's one of my go-to snacks but I don't keep it on hand.
Chorizo - While I avoid or limit US pork, I recently discovered my local Whole Foods has organic Spanish chorizo with no sugar/celery/nitrates/etc and I believe the pigs are even free range. I don't want to make it the backbone of my diet for fear of missing vitamin C (as I mentioned I've had issues with sausages) but it makes a good snack.
Pemmican - I stock pemmican from grassland beef as a survival food / snack food. It is great. I get their salt-free sticks, which also lack fruit or other additives - just lean & fat.
Now my core diet is grass-fed ruminant meat (rare), pasture-raised egg yolk (raw) and salmon (raw or smoked).
I have occasional raw beef liver or roasted marrow as well.
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