📅 Original date posted:2022-06-05
📝 Original message:(apologies i am subscribed digest)
On Sun, Jun 5, 2022 at 1:00 PM
<bitcoin-dev-request at lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2022 04:18:04 +0000
> From: alicexbt <alicexbt at protonmail.com>
> To: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion
> <bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org>
> Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Bitcoin covenants are inevitable
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> Hi Jorge,
>
>
> Misinformation is false or inaccurate information, especially that which is deliberately intended to deceive.
> A combination of 'misleading' and 'information'.
it's a classic technique that was refined by psy-ops well over
60 years ago. it should come as no surprise at all that it is
being systematically deployed to undermine bitcoin.
(welcome to the party, all psy-ops teams reading this: i admire your
persistence and tenacity. you serve an extremely useful purpose
of detecting flaws in the resilience of bitcoin and its development.)
a potential solution is Trust Metrics. the most successful open
source experiment in that regard was advogato.org by Raph Levien.
i expanded it greatly so that any user could specify the "seeds"
whom *they* trusted, rather than being forced to utilise the fixed
hard-coded user ids in the advogato.org source code (this difference
is extremely important for de-centralisation)
public declarations of trust, and their propagation through standard
Maximum-Flow Graph analysis, helps greatly to filter out the crap.
advogato deflected heavy systematic and sustained spam attacks
thanks to the simple expedient of users declaring publicly whom
they trusted.
a more advanced version of the max-flow concept came up a few
years later called keynote (RFC2704)
the similarity between trust metric evaluation and the bitcoin protocol
is so remarkable that i am, frankly, slightly stunned that it was not
added right from the start.
it is ironic that the lack of integrated trust metric evaluation built-in
to the bitcoin protocol is now hampering developers from being able
to evaluate whom to trust when it comes to protocol development.
l.
Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton [ARCHIVE] /
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2023-06-07 23:10:16
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